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MrJiveBoJingles
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Originally posted by Orbax
and it was a "What if question" where all of the premises are true.

Then it falls in the same category as questions like "What if 1=2?"
Orbax
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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
Then it falls in the same category as questions like "What if 1=2?"


Not even remotely :)
Psy-T
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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
Then it falls in the same category as questions like "What if 1=2?"


gracias senor
Orbax
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Originally posted by Psy-T
gracias senor


Now im sure you have a doctorate in particle physics, but I wouldnt say that a higher dimensional entity would necessarily contradict the existence of a lower one. Unless you understand the other dimensions a lot more than I do??????
Psy-T
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Originally posted by Orbax
Not even remotely :)


a hypothetical with contradictory premises contradicts itself, necessitating no argument.
Orbax
and in any case it was a food for thought question because not a single person here understands quantum mechanics.
Orbax
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Originally posted by Psy-T
a hypothetical with contradictory premises contradicts itself, necessitating no argument.


Explain how its contradictory. Because it sounds like you dont know what youre talking about.
Psy-T
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Originally posted by Orbax
Now im sure you have a doctorate in particle physics, but I wouldnt say that a higher dimensional entity would necessarily contradict the existence of a lower one. Unless you understand the other dimensions a lot more than I do??????


iirc, the heisenberg uncertainty principle states that a quantum particle's velocity and position can not be accurately measured, measuring one to absolute accuracy makes it impossible to measure the other, leading to one of the three options i suggested.
Psy-T
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Originally posted by Orbax
Explain how its contradictory. Because it sounds like you dont know what youre talking about.


the heisenberg uncertainty principle states A is true
your hypothetical tells of a god who can invalidate A
MrJiveBoJingles
"A being that can predict everything" + "particles whose behavior cannot be predicted."

Does not compute. It's like the old one about God creating a rock too heavy for him to lift. :o

Orbax
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Originally posted by Psy-T
iirc, the heisenberg uncertainty principle states that a quantum particle's velocity and position can not be accurately measured, measuring one to absolute accuracy makes it impossible to measure the other, leading to one of the three options i suggested.


Thats like saying that photosynthesis might use quantum particle effects to convert sunlight so one of these three options can be assume from that:

Earth is actually a microwave
God wants plants to love light
Einstein was an idiot.

Unless you explain the connection between Heisenbergs theory and the conclusions you reach, I see no reason to believe any of them are valid claims.
Orbax
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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
"A being that can predict everything" + "particles whose behavior cannot be predicted."

Does not compute. It's like the old one about God creating a rock too heavy for him to lift. :o


i said all present and all observing. I didnt say able to see the future @@
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