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Chemical Brothers - Hey Boy Hey Girl (Richard Durand remix) - sample included (pg. 6)
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| RebeL9 |
of course it should be possible to rework and freschen up a classic. in some cases the result have been really good. in most cases however the result have been horrible and uninspiring.
Honestly, the remixer can't be that naive to think that his remix really adds something unless it really does. |
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| r5a |
| From what the sample has, I quite like it and would like to hear the rest. Sounds pretty intense. |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by AndreaCKY772
well first off, the title of the track sounds stupid (seems like it would sound like a boy band or teen pop song), but i will give it a listen. |
What's the weather like out there on Mars?
As for the principle argument in this thread... I think there's a difference between:
1. Making a remix of an old track because you genuinely think you can do something interesting with it.
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2. Taking a classic and putting it into your own style because you want to piggyback the popularity of a big track and raise your own profile.
Just about the only people who got away with the latter were Hardfloor, and they were pioneers in their own right, which nobody in the right ing mind can say about Durand or Tyas. |
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| Mike_Foyle |
| quote: | Originally posted by Clovis
I'm sure his opinion might change if every 2007 rework, re-hash, re-version wasn't complete ing and a total disgrace to the originals.
I mean, the list could go on for pages now of horrible examples of this. Its just guys re-hashing old material so it sounds fresh to n00bs. Heres an idea, why not just PLAY SOME OLD TRACKS now and then... |
because alot of people find it difficult to enjoy the old tracks as much as they used to be able to due to the immense simplicity of them i guess |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by Mike_Foyle
the immense simplicity of them |
What the hell are you talking about? |
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| RebeL9 |
| probably means something along the lines "not too much supersaws in the old versions" |
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| Clovis |
| quote: | Originally posted by Mike_Foyle
because alot of people find it difficult to enjoy the old tracks as much as they used to be able to due to the immense simplicity of them i guess |
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| Mike_Foyle |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
What the hell are you talking about? |
back then electronic music was faced with more limits than it is now thats all i meant. and its clear by the simple production in older trance tracks. |
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| Clovis |
| quote: | Originally posted by Mike_Foyle
back then electronic music was faced with more limits than it is now thats all i meant. and its clear by the simple production in older trance tracks. |
So you think most of these updates, re-works etc add to the originals and breathe new life into them?
I agree that it has happened here and there, and can work, but the majority of it is crap... |
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| Mike_Foyle |
| quote: | Originally posted by RebeL9
probably means something along the lines "not too much supersaws in the old versions" |
im not sure what you mean by that lol |
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| Mike_Foyle |
| quote: | Originally posted by Clovis
So you think most of these updates, re-works etc add to the originals and breathe new life into them?
I agree that it has happened here and there, and can work, but the majority of it is crap... |
yeah fair enough im not saying all reworks and remixes are worth doing. but often they are. and also its totally down to personal preference. it doesnt matter that not everyone agrees on musical taste. what some people may consider to be a total waste of time, many other people may thoroughly enjoy. my point really is that none of you guys have any right to declare what is and is not touchable unless you own the track. there are alot people on this board who believe their judgement on something is absolute and that everyone who disagrees with them is wrong. i think its a shame that a community of people with so much passion and with so much in common are so hung up on the stuff they dont like. i mean some people on here seriously strike me as depressed and angsty, and it just makes so much more sense to enjoy the stuff you like and avoid the stuff you dont. |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by Mike_Foyle
back then electronic music was faced with more limits than it is now thats all i meant. and its clear by the simple production in older trance tracks. |
There are many, many things I disagree with you on here, on almost every level. I think it's a joke to say these producers are improving the tracks by updating the production, I think it's a joke to say that the production is "simplistic" in the majority of the tracks being updated and I especially think it's a joke to imply that Hey Boy, Hey Girl (a track from 1999) is sonically dated enough to require saving by someone like Durand, or else people couldn't stand to listen to it.
It speaks volumes about trance these days that the holy grail of music is cutting edge production (which more often than not sounds like vacuous compared to a lot of the older, more "simplistic" and yet more rewarding stuff), to the extent that producers must constantly update tracks. If these people showed a little more spine and dared to play tracks a whole eight (gasp!) years old, they might find that people will still dance to them because they're ing awesome records, and that modern production values are by no means better, and will sound just as dated as everything else in 20 years.
Now I'm sure that's not what you're saying and so on and so forth, but that's the attitude that's behind these idiotic updates 99 times out of 100. Too many producers and DJs are chasing trends and the result is they're too narrow-minded to consider old records unless they've been glossed up within the past year or two, let alone think it might actually be worth playing records that sound different to the current status quo.
And that, pretty much, sums up why we get so pissed off about this kind of remix. Or that's what pisses me off, at any rate. |
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