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paul van dyk new album (pg. 7)
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| MrsPiemont |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
I don't believe it. PVD was making trance as Visions of Shiva (with Harald Blüchel or Cosmic Baby) in 1992. I can't think of any trance record Sven Vath made before 1992. Besides, Sven was never really a dedicated trance producer, because a lot of his stuff from the time was ambient or breaks as well, and after a few years he started making techno.
Of what relevance is his DJing to an artist album?
You forgot what year you were born in? |
Once again i'm talking as a DJ.If you look closely at the actual discussion we were having the Dj aspect was involved.
I had the opportunity to see PVD and Sven (in the mid to early 90's), and the simple fact is Sven's sets always got a bigger reaction from the crowd. It is nice to sit there and nit pick while religiously searching discogs, but actually living the performances do have bearing in these matters.
As far as the year i was born in i clicked 1984 instead of 1974, which i am sure you will find a way to make my point less valid.
On the point of Artist Albums, or even compilations, said artist will always make more touring than off the album. Would you care to argue that? Ask Gui Boratto what Chromophobia did for his Dj career and how much he can command. He makes way more in appearance fees than he did off the release. The same can be said for PVD.
How old were you in 1992? |
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| Mr.Mystery |
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Bah, forget it. Age naturally makes everything we say more valid. |
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| Mr.Mystery |
| Did you forget to write the actual content there? |
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| MrsPiemont |
| quote: | Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
Of what relevance does this have to the discussion |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Of what relevance is his DJing to an artist album?
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you said something to this order before you edited. |
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| Mr.Mystery |
| What the hell are you doing? |
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| trewqy |
| quote: | Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
What the hell are you doing? |
why do u keep answering with a question? |
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| Mr.Mystery |
| quote: | Originally posted by trewqy
why do u keep answering with a question? |
Answering to what? Who are you? |
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| MrsPiemont |
| I'm participating in a discussion. I do not think I am always right but sharing what little insight I might have. From reading this site for a while, I have yet to see any insight from you Mr. Mystery. Would you care to educate us then, or are you truly a one trick pony? |
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| trewqy |
| quote: | Originally posted by MrsPiemont
I'm participating in a discussion. I do not think I am always right but sharing what little insight I might have. From reading this site for a while, I have yet to see any insight from you Mr. Mystery. Would you care to educate us then, or are you truly a one trick pony? |
Well he is a one trick pony. He probably think hes that House doctor character on TV. Oh so witty and rude, but at the end of the day hes gonna be right.
Look at his avatar ffs.. |
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| Mr.Mystery |
| quote: | Originally posted by MrsPiemont
I'm participating in a discussion. I do not think I am always right but sharing what little insight I might have. From reading this site for a while, I have yet to see any insight from you Mr. Mystery. Would you care to educate us then, or are you truly a one trick pony? |
Oh, seemed to me like you were just quoting random people without adding anything of your own. It also seemed to me like you were validating your opinions with the fact that you were older than the person you were arguing with (you seem to come back to that over and over with all your posts).
What would you like me to educate you with?
| quote: | Originally posted by trewqy
Well he is a one trick pony. He probably think hes that House doctor character on TV. Oh so witty and rude, but at the end of the day hes gonna be right.
Look at his avatar ffs.. |
Seriously, who are you and why do you think you know me? |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by MrsPiemont
Once again i'm talking as a DJ.If you look closely at the actual discussion we were having the Dj aspect was involved.
I had the opportunity to see PVD and Sven, and the simple fact is Sven's sets always got a bigger reaction from the crowd. |
If I look closely, I don't have a clue as to why you inserted a bit about DJing, and indeed Sven Vath, when you were replying to a quote about studio work with a response about studio work, and then went on to mention the kind of music he's now making in the studio.
| quote: | | It is nice to sit there and nit pick while religiously searching discogs, but actually living the performances do have bearing in these matters. |
In the matters of artist albums. Hmm. Again, what the hell does Sven Vath have to do with this?
| quote: | | As far as the year i was born in i clicked 1984 instead of 1974, which i am sure you will find a way to make my point less valid. |
Not really, although you seem to be so sensitive you'll construe what I say as an attack, regardless.
| quote: | | On the point of Artist Albums, or even compilations, said artist will always make more touring than off the album. Would you care to argue that? Ask Gui Boratto what Chromophobia did for his Dj career and how much he can command. He makes way more in appearance fees than he did off the release. The same can be said for PVD. |
Yes. This is well known. I don't think anyone but the blinkered fan base will argue that PVD's descent into pop slush has been for any other reason than to fuel the furnace of his popularity. The real issue, as I see it, is that PVD has never made trance in any other form than what was popular in a given era. When trance was entirely underground and untainted by the mainstream, he made largely underground trance. With the arrival of prog trance in the mid-90s, which usurped previous styles, he went onto that. When anthemic, Crasher trance was the rage he made a lot of records with big breakdowns and snare rolls. And so on. If acid laced goa was the most popular form of trance in the world, PVD would probably be making it. His discography is a microcosm of trance's history, or at least, the successful kind of trance's history.
However, none of this is really relevant to what you were talking about, which was that PVD was apparently the second best trance DJ at one point, behind Sven Vath, who really doesn't have anything to do with this album.
| quote: | | How old were you in 1992? |
You can work it out from my profile, as I had no reason to lie about my date of birth. How old were you when The Godfather was released? More importantly, does that number have anything to do with the validity of your opinion of The Godfather? |
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| MrsPiemont |
| quote: | Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
Oh, seemed to me like you were just quoting random people without adding anything of your own.
What would you like me to educate you with? |
Perhaps instead of telling people they are not on topic(when they are I might add). How about adding something to the actual discussion. Just because I am arguing System-J's point, does not mean I don't respect it. I simply do not agree. I ask you, do you ever have a point, or something to add to a discussion? What are your thoughts on this topic perhaps? Please show us the way if you are so witty. |
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