Originally posted by failsafe
Tublarbills: Can I ask what you do which makes you such an expert?
I've taught meteorology, instructed on light and commuter aircraft and full motion simulators. I currently fly transport category jets throughout North American and the Caribbean. I love how you reference some pilots as being "stupidass". Yet you're the one on here carrying on about things you clearly have a very limited knowledge of. Carry on though, most here will never know the difference, and you can be a hero in your own eyes.
What exactly in his post was wrong? As far as I can tell he hit the nail on the head. Thunderstorms and aircraft don't mix. No matter how sophisticated, how large and how expensive your weather radar is. I could pull up hundreds and hundreds of accident examples.
Also, a large majority of pilots (ESPECIALLY those flying GA aircraft) are, in fact, stupid. I worked at a flight school in Van Nuys CA, (busiest GA airport in the United States) for 2.5 years and got to witness the stupidity first hand. Really, it scares me to death who they give pilots licenses to these days.
gehzumteufel
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Originally posted by Clovis
What exactly in his post was wrong? As far as I can tell he hit the nail on the head. Thunderstorms and aircraft don't mix. No matter how sophisticated, how large and how expensive your weather radar is. I could pull up hundreds and hundreds of accident examples.
Also, a large majority of pilots (ESPECIALLY those flying GA aircraft) are, in fact, stupid. I worked at a flight school in Van Nuys CA, (busiest GA airport in the United States) for 2.5 years and got to witness the stupidity first hand. Really, it scares me to death who they give pilots licenses to these days.
my grandparents are members of the EAA chapter up in sacramento. omg he told me SO many bad stories of ing IDIOT pilots. i cant belive how many idiots get a ing license.
fbgdavidson
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Originally posted by Jackson
Well these are the two I have flown personally:
Grob Tutor
You were in UAS? Me too!
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Originally posted by jfk-pilot
haha thats ing awesome. Airline Mechanics are never bored. Lol
People I've met in the aviation world are some of the biggest pranksters it is hilarious! In a similar vein as to what was posted about the AC guys and the urine/apple juice, we used to send the new recruits out around the whole airfield looking for some propwash. :haha: We'd tell them to go to one hangar on the airfield but would call ahead to make sure they sent the newbies on a wild goose chase elsewhere and the fun would go on. The station I was based at was pretty large so they'd often spend several hours going around to other parts until they got bored/realised it was a prank/someone spilled the beans....
My Dad told me some great stories of a BA / BEA pilot, Jack Welford. Looked just like the guy of the Players Cut or Navy Cut cigarettes apparently.
This pilot spent some time working on the BA Highlands fleet and after he had done all his preflight checks and a few minutes before the passengers boarded he would sit in the front row with a long overcoat on and read a paper. All the passengers would then board and the flight attendant would apologise for the captain being late, although unbeknown to the passengers he was in the front row. After a few minutes he'd stand up and mutter, 'Sod this for a laugh' and walk into the cockpit
Another favourite was to wait for all the passengers to be on board and as before the flight attendant would inform the passengers of the late arrival of the pilot. Then the pilot would emerge from the terminal building area inhis uniform and walk across the tarmac towards the aircraft carrying a long white stick and tapping the ground and board the plane.
My personal favourite though is:
This captain was on a flight back from Europe and a famous actor was on board this flight, for our benefit we'll say its Richard Burton. The flight was delayed by about a quarter of hour or so, and at this point the Mr Burton calls over the flight attendant and complains that the flight is late and that he wants the pilot to know his feelings. The flight attendant goes into the cockpit and forwards the message onto the captain. A minute or so later this captain comes over on the PA system...
'Good evening ladies and gentleman and welcome to this BEA flight from Dusseldorf to London. We are very honoured to have in our presence today Richard Burton. Unfortunately because we are late he thinks my performance today is poor, however when I go to the cinema and I see one of his poor performances I have the opportunity to walk out. We hope you enjoy your flight with us today on British European Airways....'
I've got some great stories about a Concorde pilot that was a friend of the family but I'll have to save that for another day....
Clovis
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Originally posted by gehzumteufel
my grandparents are members of the EAA chapter up in sacramento. omg he told me SO many bad stories of ing IDIOT pilots. i cant belive how many idiots get a ing license.
The EAA is one of the largest organizations of idiot pilots in the USA :wtf: :wtf:
Originally posted by Clovis
What exactly in his post was wrong? As far as I can tell he hit the nail on the head. Thunderstorms and aircraft don't mix. No matter how sophisticated, how large and how expensive your weather radar is. I could pull up hundreds and hundreds of accident examples.
Also, a large majority of pilots (ESPECIALLY those flying GA aircraft) are, in fact, stupid. I worked at a flight school in Van Nuys CA, (busiest GA airport in the United States) for 2.5 years and got to witness the stupidity first hand. Really, it scares me to death who they give pilots licenses to these days.
perhaps i shouldn't have said stupid, but rather, arrogant and stubbourn. "I'm a pilot, i can fly through anything!" when really only certain types of aircraft are built *slightly* different to allow penetration of storms (i.e. the WC-130J "Hurricane Hunter" aircraft). at least, this type-a personality is very adamant in the AF. If you put a F-16 pilot in a room w/ a C-5 one, they'll argue to the death about who's a better pilot:rolleyes:
Clovis
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Originally posted by tubularbills
perhaps i shouldn't have said stupid, but rather, arrogant and stubbourn. "I'm a pilot, i can fly through anything!" when really only certain types of aircraft are built *slightly* different to allow penetration of storms (i.e. the WC-130J "Hurricane Hunter" aircraft). at least, this type-a personality is very adamant in the AF. If you put a F-16 pilot in a room w/ a C-5 one, they'll argue to the death about who's a better pilot:rolleyes:
Most Air Force pilots I have met think whatever they fly is the most challenging aircraft in the whole world. Funny how that works.
I'm just weary of most pilots in general who aren't passionate about their craft. You have guys being spit out by Embry Riddle and schools like that, they're ing factories that make robot pilots. It's terrible. I knew a guy who was reckless and stupid when flying Cessnas at ERAU, and now hes flying CRJs with ASA (Delta Connection). Really scary...
tubularbills
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Originally posted by Clovis
Most Air Force pilots I have met think whatever they fly is the most challenging aircraft in the whole world. Funny how that works.
I'm just weary of most pilots in general who aren't passionate about their craft. You have guys being spit out by Embry Riddle and schools like that, they're ing factories that make robot pilots. It's terrible. I knew a guy who was reckless and stupid when flying Cessnas at ERAU, and now hes flying CRJs with ASA (Delta Connection). Really scary...
actually, most officer ascesions come from ROTC detachments outside of "corp" schools like Embry Riddle, TAM, and USAFA. so there's a lot of "average joes" that go to normal universities and become pilots. (remember, not everyone in the AF is a pilot, they only make a small % of the total force). but they still have that attitude that "i'm the ".
but pilot training in the USAF is around full year on "general aviation" and then you actually get into your airframe, and the training is more extensive from there on. and its done on active duty, not at the universities themselves (unless someone goes out and gets their own private pilot license, but even that's done at an airport...and has nothing to do w/ AF training).so to say that the university is making "robot pilots" is wrong.
/insert image from random talking thread about "someone being wrong on internet"
gehzumteufel
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Originally posted by Clovis
The EAA is one of the largest organizations of idiot pilots in the USA :wtf: :wtf:
haha totally agree.
Clovis
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Originally posted by tubularbills
but pilot training in the USAF is around full year on "general aviation" and then you actually get into your airframe, and the training is more extensive from there on. and its done on active duty, not at the universities themselves (unless someone goes out and gets their own private pilot license, but even that's done at an airport...and has nothing to do w/ AF training).so to say that the university is making "robot pilots" is wrong.
/insert image from random talking thread about "someone being wrong on internet"
I wasn't talking about Air Force guys. I meant pilots who go from ERAU etc to commercial flying.
tubularbills
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Originally posted by Clovis
I wasn't talking about Air Force guys. I meant pilots who go from ERAU etc to commercial flying.
ooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
*palms forehead*
EDIT,
back on topic, the AWAC is pretty sophisticated [but goofy lookin]
curleyq992
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Originally posted by failsafe
I guess being a pilot would disqualify me somehow as working around aircraft full time? You've got a terribly myopic view of what a real professional pilot does if you think it's just up to FL410 and monitor the autopilot.
biznology: You're the first person I've ever met that has used the defense of working for the government as qualifying someone as not stupid. Is everyone else wrong?
Dang, Failsafe is the expert. How long will it take the forum to recognize his credentials instead of being stupid as normal? A little bit I reckon.
