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Pioneer 700 mixer vs 800 (pg. 2)
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| idoru |
I enjoy the DJM during the one time a year when I spin some Hard Techno for a few hours. Fast, sudden transitions which is what the mixer feels like it has been made for.
The rest of the time I'll take the Xone over anything. Perfect for more precise, thought-out transitions, layering, etc. More focused on smooth mixing as opposed to sudden slams.
That's how I see it. To me, both of them are better suited for certain genres of music. Then again, this is has become yet another "Xone vs DJM" thread. Choose what you want, not what we want. |
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| DjWoody |
Both mixers have it's ups and downs. I've used both plenty of times. I love the sound quality of the Xone, but I'm not a fan of the cueing system. However, I really can't stand the curves on the faders. You really can't hear the next track unless your fader is almost all the way up. That bothers me because I play different genres of music. However, when mixing house, prog or techno, a rotary Xone 92 is sick. A huge plus on the Xone is it's many output options. I belive in the Xone you can output up to two channels pre-mix. That's awesome!
However, I like the pioneer for it's simplicity. It's cueing system is pretty straight forward and the layout is pretty clean. I also spin Spanish Rock, Top 40 & Mashups so the faders work perfect for those styles. The effects are cool, but I rarely use them. Honestly, I bought the pioneer for it's ease of use and because I do sound at many clubs I know I would be able to rent it out more than the Xone. Up to this date, I haven't had a single request for Xone 92, but I had tons of requests for the DJM800. |
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| MACBOOK69 |
| check out the ecler, just as good as the xone if not better and cheaper. |
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| RJT |
It never ceases to amaze me how many people complain about the cueing system on Xone's in general - I can understand *maybe* complaining about it on the 62 or 32, but FFS - the system on the 92 is EXACTLY THE SAME AS ON A DJM!
| quote: | Originally posted by DjWoody
Both mixers have it's ups and downs. I've used both plenty of times. I love the sound quality of the Xone, but I'm not a fan of the cueing system. However, I really can't stand the curves on the faders. You really can't hear the next track unless your fader is almost all the way up. That bothers me because I play different genres of music. However, when mixing house, prog or techno, a rotary Xone 92 is sick. A huge plus on the Xone is it's many output options. I belive in the Xone you can output up to two channels pre-mix. That's awesome!
However, I like the pioneer for it's simplicity. It's cueing system is pretty straight forward and the layout is pretty clean. I also spin Spanish Rock, Top 40 & Mashups so the faders work perfect for those styles. The effects are cool, but I rarely use them. Honestly, I bought the pioneer for it's ease of use and because I do sound at many clubs I know I would be able to rent it out more than the Xone. Up to this date, I haven't had a single request for Xone 92, but I had tons of requests for the DJM800. |
I really don't know what you're on about here, but the faders on every Xone mixer I have ever played on hardly needed to be all the way up to hear the incoming track (check the systems you're playing on before blaming the mixer), beyond that I have absolutely no idea how in s name you (or anyone else, really) can justify saying that a DJM is better suited to different styles of music, especially "Spanish Rock, Top 40, and Mashups" than any other mixer.
The only people who complain about any mixer's "ease of use" versus any other mixer are those who don't take the time to learn the equipment they're using.
Oh, and people more concerned with renting a mixer out to make money than actually playing on it. |
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| david.michael |
| I went the DJM route, simply because all the clubs around here have DJMs and I wanted that to be what I was used to playing on. That logic has served me well so far. :) |
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| colombian raver |
| quote: | Originally posted by RJT That makes perfect sense - bad taste in music, bad taste in gear.
I suppose for Unicorn trance or McProg, a DJM 800 is a DJ's wet dream - it's a bare bones mixer with wretched sound quality (that oddly makes the music sound better) and horrible EQ curves, BUT with the simple turn of a knob even the most tone-deaf of DJ's can avoid key clashes for those random 16 notes where you might have misphrased a bassline and have competing frequencies. And let's not forget that flanger - the only effect that will ever be used on countless 800's the world over. What would trance be without that flange?!?
For everyone else, however, there are plenty of better choices - and certainly not just Allen & Heath choices. I just don't see how an educated consumer or DJ can prefer a DJM 800 to the literally dozens of better options out there.
Oh wait, it's got loads of pretty lights too. Nevermind. DJM 800 OR BUST, MANG! 4 LAIFE!
EDIT: FLANGING FOREVER! NEVER FORGET! |
| quote: | Originally posted by RJT
It never ceases to amaze me how many people complain about the cueing system on Xone's in general - I can understand *maybe* complaining about it on the 62 or 32, but FFS - the system on the 92 is EXACTLY THE SAME AS ON A DJM!
I really don't know what you're on about here, but the faders on every Xone mixer I have ever played on hardly needed to be all the way up to hear the incoming track (check the systems you're playing on before blaming the mixer), beyond that I have absolutely no idea how in s name you (or anyone else, really) can justify saying that a DJM is better suited to different styles of music, especially "Spanish Rock, Top 40, and Mashups" than any other mixer.
The only people who complain about any mixer's "ease of use" versus any other mixer are those who don't take the time to learn the equipment they're using.
Oh, and people more concerned with renting a mixer out to make money than actually playing on it. |
God damn dude, why do you have to be such a gigantic ass hole about it? You defend you're Xone as if someone insulted your dead mom and pissed on her grave.
He prefers something different than you and that just destroys your world and now you must bash his opinions and likes just because he doesn't like what YOU like.
I've never seen someone flip out so much over something so stupid. |
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| i got big pants |
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its tranceaddict...what do you expect |
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| cmay119 |
| quote: | Originally posted by colombian raver
God damn dude, why do you have to be such a gigantic ass hole about it? You defend you're Xone as if someone insulted your dead mom and pissed on her grave.
He prefers something different than you and that just destroys your world and now you must bash his opinions and likes just because he doesn't like what YOU like.
I've never seen someone flip out so much over something so stupid. |
Probably because he see's a new DJM vs Xone thread every other day. Usually ending with the majority leaning towards the 800 (pretty much proven to be the inferior mixer, in sound quality and build), due to so many jocks loving the cheesy effects unit built in.
Though I haven't used either myself, I own a DJM-400 & am already tired of the gimmicky effects that are built in, and have almost completely stopped using them. My next mixer will most definately be a Xone:92. It's the mixer that has everything I want/need & nothing that I don't. |
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| starboy |
| If you really know how to mix and use the filters properly on the xone then it's better than the 800, but i like them both equally. |
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| Ghost Raver |
Both suck :) Xone too
DXM06 all the way |
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| drEamer |
this thread had nothing to do with a xone!!!!
700 has this frequency thing thats pretty cool..... |
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| miamitranceman |
| quote: | Originally posted by RJT
That makes perfect sense - bad taste in music, bad taste in gear. 
I suppose for Unicorn trance or McProg, a DJM 800 is a DJ's wet dream - it's a bare bones mixer with wretched sound quality (that oddly makes the music sound better) and horrible EQ curves, BUT with the simple turn of a knob even the most tone-deaf of DJ's can avoid key clashes for those random 16 notes where you might have misphrased a bassline and have competing frequencies. And let's not forget that flanger - the only effect that will ever be used on countless 800's the world over. What would trance be without that flange?!?
For everyone else, however, there are plenty of better choices - and certainly not just Allen & Heath choices. I just don't see how an educated consumer or DJ can prefer a DJM 800 to the literally dozens of better options out there.
Oh wait, it's got loads of pretty lights too. Nevermind. DJM 800 OR BUST, MANG! 4 LAIFE!
EDIT: FLANGING FOREVER! NEVER FORGET! |
Seriously dude, off. Woody is one of the most helpful people here, with more regular gigs than you I believe. :rolleyes: |
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