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Have you heard of lucid dreaming...? (pg. 8)
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| BTG |
| once i dreamed that i ed a girl with both my dicks. |
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| Halcyon+On+On |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lomeli
Why? |
Because, as Raistlin already grilled you for, the veracity of your claims lacks evidence - there's simply nothing there. There are millions and millions of accounts of people's personal chemistry leading them to believe a great deal of things, but there's simply no evidence that these experiences are "real". Am I saying it's impossible? Certainly not, it has not been thoroughly disproven by any effective means, so I would be quite out of my place to say otherwise, but to proceed without any basis other than mere beliefs? You're just asking to be made fun of.
But then you come by with your analogies and your ing proverbs trying to convince us that proof isn't necessary because it is only a matter of looking into yourself for the answer or some other equal line of utter bull and you ing polarize the issue with this sort of rhetoric. Is it truly so difficult to admit that you have proceeded into belief with no logic whatsoever? That your claims are completely based in, not only anecdote, but in drug-induced hallucinatory yarns? Are you indeed speaking to us from another dimension at this very junction of what we mere humans know as the illusion of "time"?
Durr. |
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| Ridexer |
Have got few of lucid dreams where I've been at good control, and numerous dreams that I've realized it's dream but couldn't get the control of. (One nightmare I had, I could control myself but couldn't change anything, so I just totally screwed the "plot" of the dream by doing things the wrong way etc.)
I think I should doing the trick that got me my lucid dreams again, once now in a while hold your nose and try to breath in with it. If you can breath in, either your nose has spontaneously got some holes into themself or your asleep ^^.
It's also rather stealthy way to do "reality check" |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
That your claims are completely based in, not only anecdote, but in drug-induced hallucinatory yarns? Are you indeed speaking to us from another dimension at this very junction of what we mere humans know as the illusion of "time"? |
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| Tom Scott |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ Shibby
Take 100mg of diphenhydramine (benedryl) 20 minutes before bed with a glass of milk; when you're lying there, just clear your mind out before you fall asleep; 9 times out of ten it will project you into a powerful lucid dreamstate that is absolutely unreal. |
DPH is ing insane, took 1200mg pure last week. Extremely weird stuff!
I reember lucid dreaming when i was younger, basically just flying around everywhere :haha: It was amazing, havent had it for a while though "/ |
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| Lomeli |
| quote: | Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
Am I saying it's impossible? Certainly not, it has not been thoroughly disproven by any effective means, so I would be quite out of my place to say otherwise.
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Gotcha.
| quote: | Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
But then you come by with your analogies and your ing proverbs trying to convince us that proof isn't necessary because it is only a matter of looking into yourself for the answer or some other equal line of utter bull and you ing polarize the issue with this sort of rhetoric. |
Blah blah blah. You're just as dense as I am. No one knows anything for sure. |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lomeli
Blah blah blah. You're just as dense as I am. No one knows anything for sure. |
i cant prove you don't finger- children, is it ok for me to maintain that you do? |
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| DJ Eco |
| quote: | Originally posted by Tom Scott
I reember lucid dreaming when i was younger, basically just flying around everywhere :haha: |
Yeah! Same here... I'd have these extremely vivid dreams of me being able to rise and fly away, it was so real.
Reading about lucid dreaming, the one thing I do have often is "sleep paralysis"... This is the first time I've read about it, and it's so crazy, but happens to me a lot... |
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| Halcyon+On+On |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lomeli
Blah blah blah. You're just as dense as I am. No one knows anything for sure. |
That's all well and good, but I don't really see how it does anything for your case. What, pray tell, other than drug or hypnosis-induced experiences, indicates anything whatsoever to your apparent position that human beings are capable of astral projection?
Please don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to take sides here because I, as well, hold that there is a great deal of information and experiences out there human beings have yet to even encounter much less begin to explain. But what I see in you is a regression in this - a step back in everything the scientific method has enlightened us with, because what I see in you is faith and the power of suggestion. You want to see these things because they are interesting and will look for whatever self-fulfilling "proof" you can grasp for to bring others with you. This is not understanding or even divination - it's fantasy and as much as I love it as entertainment, you have no basis for your rhetoric. |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| which begs the question- does lomeli finger- children, or do i merely want him to finger- children? |
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| sweetcaroline |
| I used to lucid dream a good bit. Always did the same thing when I knew I was dreaming- switch the scenario into an energetic sex scene. Much more vivid than a waking fantasy. |
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| Halcyon+On+On |
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
which begs the question- does lomeli finger- children, or do i merely want him to finger- children? |
Both imo |
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