Originally posted by fayraree
he was 2007 footballer of the year, right?
you must have him confused with landon donovan
Yohan
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Originally posted by chimera66
:D thanks guys...football/soccer has been something i've told myself i HAVE to learn more about so when i saw this deal in the news the other day i was like :wtf:. obviously i've heard of kaka and remember him playing for brazil but with that type of money attached to his name i didn't get this whole transfer thing.
i've been reading some on this and the de jong transfer...god help man city they are spending so much damn money for a football club!!! although if i were the owners i would spend whatever to win.
please tell me that you're not the e bulls fan :(
chesco
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Originally posted by chimera66
:D thanks guys...football/soccer has been something i've told myself i HAVE to learn more about so when i saw this deal in the news the other day i was like :wtf:. obviously i've heard of kaka and remember him playing for brazil but with that type of money attached to his name i didn't get this whole transfer thing.
i've been reading some on this and the de jong transfer...god help man city they are spending so much damn money for a football club!!! although if i were the owners i would spend whatever to win.
Man city have nothing to worry about what they are spending right now, they are owned by the richest man in the world.
SYSTEM-J
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Originally posted by nchs09
Id take robben with his speed and amazing shot over kaka with just an amazing shot.
Your massive hard-on for Real Madrid must be obscuring your vision. Higuain and Robben better than Kaka? off. Kaka has no pace? Watch him comprehensively outstrip Messi with the ball:
Kaka wasn't in great form last year because he was trying to carry an ageing, flawed team single-handedly. As they say in football: form is temporary, class is permanent. Kaka has permanent class, and when he's on form he's as good as absolutely anyone in the world. He can do almost everything: dribble, pass, outrun anyone and score with either foot from almost anywhere around the goal.
Higuain is a decent striker who should be scoring goals with players like Scheider and Robben playing him in. Robben is a showpony with a limp who is ing useless unless he can get on his left foot. Kaka is streets ahead of them.
As for the Man City team, it's bat lunacy from a footballing perspective. All Man City's wins were by at least 3-0 scorelines, they have five strikers who cost over £50mil in total and four international attacking midfielders feeding them. They have so much attacking talent they can tell Nery Castillo to off and forget who Bojinov is. And they're still 15th in the table. Quite clearly, they don't need attacking players, regardless of the quality, they need defenders.
It's lunacy for Kaka. He is a devout Christian who gives half his wages to a Christian charity in Brazil. Hardly the type to be corrupted by the prospect of wealth. He apparently wants clauses stating City will recieve heavy funding for the next few years and will definitely qualify for the Champion's League else he'll quit. Why not stay at Milan until that has already happened?
This move makes sense to two parties. The owners of Man City want a superstar club that will raise the profile of Abu Dhabi. That's why they're there. I can realistically see Manchester City being franchised and moved to Abu Dhabi lock, stock and barrel to attract tourism to the region. Man City fans won't be so happy when that happens. Signing players like Kaka will make Man City the most talked about club on Earth, and the owners have the financial force to make it happen.
The other party is AC Milan. They're having financial difficulties and have an old team that hasn't been properly maintained by Ancelotti. They have a ready-made replacement for Kaka in Ronaldinho, who is coming back into form, and £100mil could buy them a new player in every single problem position.
chesco
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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
The other party is AC Milan. They're having financial difficulties and have an old team that hasn't been properly maintained by Ancelotti. They have a ready-made replacement for Kaka in Ronaldinho, who is coming back into form, and £100mil could buy them a new player in every single problem position.
I'm a big fan of Milan, have been since the Arrigo Sacchi years the first time around. For me, while kaka has been inspirational for them over the last 5 or 6 years, it would be great business for them to take in 100 million from this transfer. Milan have needed to rebuild their team for the last 3 years but the money just hasn't been there, this sort of money, like you say, could buy a very decent player in every position and get them challenging inter milan again for the scudetto again.
Gourcuff looks like the loan move has done him the world of good as well so when you consider he is a very similar player to kaka, they may not be losing much at all. Check out his goal from the weekend.
SYSTEM-J
-hot goal and I love the French commentary.
denys envy
Man City needs a defense first. I don't know how much help Kaka will be besides another good expensive player.
Ian
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Originally posted by chesco
I'm a big fan of Milan, have been since the Arrigo Sacchi years the first time around. For me, while kaka has been inspirational for them over the last 5 or 6 years, it would be great business for them to take in 100 million from this transfer. Milan have needed to rebuild their team for the last 3 years but the money just hasn't been there, this sort of money, like you say, could buy a very decent player in every position and get them challenging inter milan again for the scudetto again.
Gourcuff looks like the loan move has done him the world of good as well so when you consider he is a very similar player to kaka, they may not be losing much at all. Check out his goal from the weekend.
yeah i hear he's a great prospect and sometimes these young players have the ability and just need to be given a chance, and selling kaka would open it up for players like he. The Milan squad has become a bit of a joke lately, way overaged and undermotivated
trunks1022
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Originally posted by denys envy
Man City needs a defense first. I don't know how much help Kaka will be besides another good expensive player.
maybe hughes will put him at right back
denys envy
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Originally posted by trunks1022
maybe hughes will put him at right back
for 500000 a week! he better get anal too.
chrisday
Football is a joke at the moment... Scholari rumoured to want to swap 4 top players and 15m for Robinho.
No one in the world is worth that kind of money, but I think if anyone is, I think its Kaka.. And people saying he has no speed have most definitly not seen him play.
I think people are forgetting players like Gerrard (Mr Liverpool), Fabregas amongst others.
noikeee
That's not the first amazing goal Gourcuff has scored this year. I don't follow the french league that close, but from all I've read and some highlights I watched, he's been pretty much the league's player of the season so far. This player's potential has been hyped for some years already (I remember him being a superstar on my Porto side in Football Manager a couple years ago), and it wouldn't surprise anyone if he proves himself as truly world class when he comes back to Milan.
Manchester City is trying to be the new Chelsea, buying their way to success through the investments of a billionaire. However they're forgetting many steps: Chelsea was already a mid-top club when it got bought by Abramovich, they had already promising talents developed through their ranks or bought young (Terry, Lampard), they invested in proven managers first (Ranieri, Mourinho), made a team out of expensive players yet all promising and eager to move to a top league (Cech, Drogba, Essien, Ricardo Carvalho, Robben, etc), won a league title, and only THEN they started buying out the Ballacks and Shevchenkos from top clubs (and it actually didn't go that well). Man City are starting from this final step, so they're doing it backwards!
It remains to be seen whether this will work for them or not. However, this is very worrying for english football. The amount of money you need to succeed is becoming incredibly high, the other teams will be forced to increase their budgets and in the long run this financial model might not be sustainable.
