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Anyone have your music properly mastered?
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| Kismet7 |
I'd like to see the differences between unmastered and mastered versions of same tune :D
Anyone want to post snippets of your unmastered tune vs the master version. |
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| alanzo |
| It's not like any mastering studio runs it through some magic gear that makes it an amazing track. All they'll do is run it through some VSTs, maybe some hardware gear if they have it, and make it louder, sometimes brighter, and sometimes bassier. Compression can help to make the track fuller and/or puchier, but that's it. Any idiot can master a track, it's not hard. |
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| DeZmA |
| Mastering is an art itself, if your track is good enough it will be mastered for you |
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| Eric J |
| quote: | Originally posted by alanzo
It's not like any mastering studio runs it through some magic gear that makes it an amazing track. All they'll do is run it through some VSTs, maybe some hardware gear if they have it, and make it louder, sometimes brighter, and sometimes bassier. Compression can help to make the track fuller and/or puchier, but that's it. Any idiot can master a track, it's not hard. |
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It's all about the mixdown. I have said it before and I'll say it again. Think of your track like an ice cream sundae. Mastering is just the cherry on top. The sundae should still taste good without the cherry, but adding the cherry gives just a "bit" extra. |
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| Kismet7 |
| quote: | Originally posted by alanzo
It's not like any mastering studio runs it through some magic gear that makes it an amazing track. All they'll do is run it through some VSTs, maybe some hardware gear if they have it, and make it louder, sometimes brighter, and sometimes bassier. Compression can help to make the track fuller and/or puchier, but that's it. Any idiot can master a track, it's not hard. |
Read the OP properly next time, figure out what the OP is stating or asking. If you've had your track mastered, post snippets or the whole track if you'd like, if you have not had a track mastered I'm not really looking for opinions on what mastering is.
If you have something to add to this thread based on what the op specifically asks, feel free, if not make another thread about mastering and be the idiot you speak of and share your theories about how its really done. Throw in some philosophy and ethics in there while your at it.
Ok now that is potentially beneficial thread is back on track...lets hear some pre-mastered/mastered examples. Since not many might have had their tracks mastered, they dont have to be your own if you know of examples on the net you've come across.
Note : the pre-mastered version is essential if your going to share mastered version. |
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| Zild |
You should not hear much of a difference in the mastering. Mostly it gets songs ready to be pressed up and distributed. From one song to the next it makes sure your dynamics aren't all over the place and your levels are solid. But like the guys said if you put in you will get out.
I was actually laughing my ass off over this exact idea that people have with my friend Tim Xavier who runs one of the biggest mastering houses for Techno in Berlin. |
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| Kismet7 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Zild
You should not hear much of a difference in the mastering. Mostly it gets songs ready to be pressed up and distributed. From one song to the next it makes sure your dynamics aren't all over the place and your levels are solid. But like the guys said if you put in you will get out.
I was actually laughing my ass off over this exact idea that people have with my friend Tim Xavier who runs one of the biggest mastering houses for Techno in Berlin. |
Good, this does not address what is asked in the OP. If you want to discuss the importance of Mastering or what it is, make a thread titled "Mastering : All Things Mastering", and then discuss mastering in there. This is a thread where Examples will speak for themselves, because they are the only things that answer the question asked.
If im not making sense, i'll put it a different way since not only can I write and comprehend simple english but I can create new ways to say the same thing. If you brought Sony's head mastering engineers in here and they posted something about what mastering is and is not i'd kindly ask them to off and read the OP.
Next person that share their philosophy or opinion about mastering is in serious need of reading comprehension skills and should get that down before wanting to become a successful producer. But never fret, maybe after a couple examples I will take the discussion to what mastering is or is not since some of you know perfectly well what it is, for now lets stick to what the OP is asking. |
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| Zild |
You make sense but you got about all the help you will get and your attitude is going to make people want to keep telling you the same thing over and over again.
Now if your really want an answer to your question a smart person would go to mastering house and pretend they are a potential client and ask for audio samples. |
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| Kismet7 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Zild
You make sense but you got about all the help you will get and your attitude is going to make people want to keep telling you the same thing over and over again. |
My attitude is line with the ridiculous responses to a rather simple question. I mean come on, im asking one thing and getting responses to something else, and at the same time they mock the question that they obviously cant answer and then brush off mastering like its so unimportant.
Either you have a response which includes samples/snippets, or you dont have a response for this thread and should not respond. So if I let the responses continue the way they have, this thread will remain in the wrong direction and no one will benefit from a potentially beneficial thread. That said, you will be able to give mastering philosophy once we have some good examples going, it'll be open game then for the mastering geniuses here ;) |
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| Zild |
There are no mastering geniuses here. To master you just need an EQ, compressor, and delay. The main reason my friend makes money running a mastering studio is because he has Scully/Westrex lathe modded with a vinylium pitch computer that can space grooves even tighter, so he gets a more time and volume per side when he cuts a master. Other than that he really isn't making his clients music sound any better. Just tweaks it a little so he can cut it properly and then cuts it. Nothing magical or genius about it.
Like I said if you really want you should be asking people who do this for a living if they have samples they can give you. Tell them you a potential client, but don't feel bad if they tell you the same thing we have told you. |
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| Kismet7 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Zild
There are no mastering geniuses here. To master you just need an EQ, compressor, and delay. The main reason my friend makes money running a mastering studio is because he has Scully/Westrex lathe modded with a vinylium pitch computer that can space grooves even tighter, so he gets a more time and volume per side when he cuts a master. Other than that he really isn't making his clients music sound any better. Just tweaks it a little so he can cut it properly and then cuts it. Nothing magical or genius about it.
Like I said if you really want you should be asking people who do this for a living if they have samples they can give you. Tell them you a potential client, but don't feel bad if they tell you the same thing we have told you. |
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The density of your brain > a rock. Would'nt you agree? Once again (and probably not the last time i'll repeat the OP) I'm not asking what mastering is, because being a resourceful internet user there are plenty of .pdf files and books about it, and there are other forums with well knowledged people to ask that sort of question.
Instead I ask for examples of mastering through a pre-master vs. master sample of dance music, the only data of value in this thread. :D |
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| [Alpha]Dave |
| quote: | Originally posted by Zild
To master you just need an EQ, compressor, and delay. |
Delay on the mastering? Haha, that's new... :rolleyes: :eyespop:
My apologies to the original poster for me not really contributing to the thread. ;) |
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