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ChemEnhanced
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Originally posted by Lomeli
If you live your life in the pursuit of money, then I don't believe you're living at all.


but that is your belief...maybe some people believe the pursuit of money is what life is all about.
nefardec
quote:
Originally posted by Lira


As for greed being the root of all evils, it isn't. It is often a despicable emotion, but this is far from being the only cause behind the harm humans can inflict on others, and it's also far from being always negative (greed can, paradoxically, help you achieve things you would otherwise lack the motivation to).



this 'greed is good' mentality (don't post the movie clip, everyone knows it already) is the problem itself.

to me, it's disgusting. there are better motivations: improving the collective quality of life, health, and spiritual motivations.

greed only helps you achieve things you don't need. it is a vicious, cyclical system that says, in order to survive you must take advantage of other people or help other people take advantage of other people.


this is corny, but related:
http://www.thevenusproject.com/resource_eco.htm
Lomeli
quote:
Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
but that is your belief...maybe some people believe the pursuit of money is what life is all about.


Yup. I believe those people are crazy.
Boomer187
The thing with saying that money is the root of all evil get rid of it and lets just trade stuff is that you will just replace money with something else. There will always be signs of status in society, and the root of all evil is the unavoidable pursuit of those.
nefardec
quote:
Originally posted by Lomeli
Yup. I believe those people are crazy.


you can substitute money with anything - faith, happiness, etc

in the end they are all delusions of 'hope', 'future', and 'more'



greed is not limited to 'money'
Lomeli
Death is right around the corner, and he wants ALL your money.
winston
quote:
Originally posted by nefardec
this 'greed is good' mentality (don't post the movie clip, everyone knows it already) is the problem itself.

to me, it's disgusting. there are better motivations: improving the collective quality of life, health, and spiritual motivations.

greed only helps you achieve things you don't need. it is a vicious, cyclical system that says, in order to survive you must take advantage of other people or help other people take advantage of other people.


this is corny, but related:
http://www.thevenusproject.com/resource_eco.htm


a utilitarian, i like that too. money shouldn't be the end goal, education gives you that. it's best to live a life which goes in accordance to your values. don't just work to make money, work because there is a purpose in what you do...
Lomeli
quote:
Originally posted by winston
it's best to live a life which goes in accordance to your values. don't just work to make money, work because there is a purpose in what you do...


I like the way you think.
RickyM
As Spike Milligan said; Money can't buy you happiness, but it can buy you a more pleasant form of misery...
winston
quote:
Originally posted by Lomeli
I like the way you think.


it's not me, it's john stuart mills, ayn rand a sartre all rolled up into one. :o

Lira
quote:
Originally posted by nefardec
this 'greed is good' mentality (don't post the movie clip, everyone knows it already) is the problem itself.

What movie clip?

Besides, I'm not saying greed is good. I'm saying greed itself isn't either bad or good, as it's highly dependent on the context (like everything else).
jonSun
quote:
Originally posted by Lomeli
If you look to money for true happiness, you will never find it.


agreed. It makes me wanna sell everything, pack up & move to somewhere like Brazil or the Philippines.
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