Muslims from the Islamic lands should not be concerned with these issues, no offense, because it didnt happen in their countries, it didnt happen in their jurisdiction / dominion. If if did happen on their territory, then they have a right to apply whatever the laws they have in place to deal with the situation rightfully.
Civilized people deal with issues like these properly. For example, when the movie Borat came out, it really offended Kazakhstan and its people - I was offended myself. But you didnt see Kazakh people issuing death on the publishers/producer, attacking stores, bombing distributors, etc. etc. They were offended, but they just banned the movie from being distributed in their country. They were smarter, they knew Borat wasnt a fact, and the issue blew over quickly enough. They didnt let it get to them.
However, religious fundamentalists often deal with issues like these differently. I can imagine if Kazakhstan was a fundamientalist country, they would have not let Borat off the hook so easiily ...
-=Kotten=-
Other news:
2/15/9
Invitation to the UK islamic conferance
On the 3rd March 2009 C.E. it will have been 85 years since the destruction of the Islamic State, or in other words 85 years of tyranny, oppression and injustice. For over 1300 years this magnificent superpower dominated world affairs and introduced a law and order that lifted the masses from the darkness of man-made law and into the light of al-Islam.
This special conference will be dedicated to providing an in depth overview of the Islamic State, its past, present and future as well as emphasise the need for all Muslims worldwide to struggle as much as they can for the sake of Allah (SWT) to implement the Shari'ah on the earth. <----NOTE THEIR OUTSPOKEN GOAL---
2/15/9
BAGHDAD (AFP) — The Iraqi army has uncovered 10 bodies in a shallow mass grave north of the capital believed to date back about two years to a period when Al-Qaeda terrorised the area, the military said on Sunday.
Army spokesman Major General Mohammed al-Askari said the skeletons were found on Saturday in Al-Taji, 40 kilometres (25 miles) from Baghdad.
"The graves and the bones date back to about two years ago and are believed to be the work of Al-Qaeda," he told AFP...
2/15/9
After having three puppet hosts, Mickey Mouse look alike, the bee and the rabbit, die on TV, Hamas childrens television has introduced a fourth puppet host. The new one, a bear named Nassour, appeared Friday on Hamas TV promising to be a Jihad fighter, declaring war on the Zionists.
2/8/09
British anti-Semitism attacks 'the worst recorded in Britain in decades'. Approximately 270 incidents in 2009, so far, with an average of 7 incidents per day.
2/5/09
Dhaka, Bangladesh: A gang of Muslim pilgrims beat a Bible student for distributing Christian literature. The Muslims had gathered for the World Muslim Congregation, where Murmo was distributing the literature. 50 men attacked him, demanding to know the location of his Bible college, before was rescued by law enforcement. Police say that if they had not arrived in time the crowd would likely have killed him.
2/6/09
Rochdale, England: A gang of 20 “youths” attacked a pastor and his church for the second time. Pastor Dennis Rigg and his brother were setting up for their father’s funeral when a crowd hurled snowballs at them and shouted anti-Christian slurs, some of them relating, erroneously, to Operation Cast Lead and Zionism. Zion Baptist Church had previously been spray-painted with racist slurs.
2/6/09
Tur Abin, Turkey: State escalates a legal battle against an Assyrian monastery. The St. Gabriel monastery, one of the world’s oldest, has been under legal siege by nearby villages . . . arguably an attempt on the government’s part to drive out the remaining Assyrians by annexing the land for Kurdish villages.
2/5/09
Cairo, Egypt: The State has released two Christian men who had been arrested for distributing Bibles at the Cairo International Book Fair. They were charged with defaming Islam and preaching. Preaching is not forbidden by Egyptian law.
2/3/09
Somalia: A report by Open Doors USA places Somalia in the top 10 nations for Christian persecution. The 2009 report puts Korea in first place for the 7th straight year, but Somalia has risen from 12th to 5th place. Seven of the top 10 nations in the report are Islamic states. The organization estimates that 100 million Christians worldwide suffer persecution, making Christians the most oppressed group in the world.
1/29/09
Port Sa’id, Egypt: Christians were jailed after a brutal police raid. Six Christian brothers’ café was raided and vandalized by 13 police officers for remaining open during Ramadan. The brothers were beaten with sticks, leaving two of them with broken arms and another with a head wound.
1/29/09
On Iranian TV, Mohammad 'Ali Ramin, Ahmadinejad's Holocaust advisor, suggests Jews used the Holocaust for greedy purposes and also suggests the numbers of dead are extremely inflated and that Jews used the lie of the Holocaust to "control the Western governments".
1/20/09
Punjab, Pakistan: Muslims attack church and torture four Christian families in their homes. The violence originated in a dispute over land acquired by a Catholic from a Muslim and the marriage of a Christian man to a Muslim woman. Police have made no arrests. The 25 Christian families in the village of Kot Lakha Singh are subjected to constant harassment.
1/21/09
Eritrea: The Christian death toll mounts in prisons, or rather, “military confinement centers.” One man died from complications resulting from diabetes and being tortured, another as the result of torture endured after refusing to recant his faith, and another after having been refused medication for malaria. Incarcerated Christians throughout Eritrea have been transferred to Mitire prison. Church leaders told Open Doors that 2981 Christians have been incarcerated for their faith.
1/20/09
Vennabari, Bangladesh: A Baptist pastor’s wife is gang-raped and their home robbed. 7 or 8 local Muslims held up the pastor at gunpoint, broke into his home, tied him and his wife up, blindfolded her, robbed them, and then gang-raped his wife. “If my daughters had been present in the house at that night, they would have been victims as their mother was,”
1/14/09
Dhaka, Bangladesh: Muslims drive Christian grandparents from their home. Two brothers have been forced by neighbors in the entirely-Muslim village to expel their parents for converting to Christianity. The sons fear that their children will not be married in the Muslim tradition if their parents remain in the village. Their pastor says that they are becoming ill from malnutrition, as they are living on handouts. Another Christian in a nearby village is being framed as a terrorist after police found planted bombs and weapons behind his house.
1/12/09.
On Al-Rahma TV, Egyptian cleric Muhammad Al-Zughbi calls for Allah to destroy the "Jewish dogs" completely and calls for Allah to annihilate U.S. and European leaders .
George Smiley
quote:
Originally posted by Alex
If such a documentary were to be made against Christianity, just how many death threats would the Dutch MP receive?
Well I suppose that would depend on whether or not he gave his support for abortion...
Alex
quote:
Originally posted by George Smiley
Well I suppose that would depend on whether or not he gave his support for abortion...
Haha fair point fair point.
atbell
quote:
Originally posted by Magnetonium
Civilized people deal with issues like these properly. For example, when the movie Borat came out, it really offended Kazakhstan and its people - I was offended myself. But you didnt see Kazakh people issuing death on the publishers/producer, attacking stores, bombing distributors, etc. etc. They were offended, but they just banned the movie from being distributed in their country. They were smarter, they knew Borat wasnt a fact, and the issue blew over quickly enough. They didnt let it get to them.
However, religious fundamentalists often deal with issues like these differently. I can imagine if Kazakhstan was a fundamientalist country, they would have not let Borat off the hook so easiily ...
I even saw some quotes about how Borat was at least raising awarness of Kazakhstan in the US, something that would never have happened otherwise.
Magnetonium
quote:
Originally posted by atbell
I even saw some quotes about how Borat was at least raising awarness of Kazakhstan in the US, something that would never have happened otherwise.
LOL, you kidding me? Kazakh people dont wash their face with toilet water! Have you been in Kazakhstan lately? Their capital, Astana, is magnificent!
Its so magnificent it was paired with such sister cities as Warsaw, St. Petersburg, Moscow, Riga, Seoul.
Magnetonium
That does it. I cannot hide it any further. I highly recommend to all atheists and non-believers (in religion) and anyone else even remotely interested in watching Pat Donnel's videos on YouTube. I do NOT recommend watching Fitna (movie discussed on this thread), as its more racist than anything else, video clips by Pat Donell are much more useful and educational. He's quite brilliant. I disagreed with couple points of his here and there, but mostly this guy's just very smart. I couldn't help but watch all his videos and make some point form notes for future discussions.
That does it. I cannot hide it any further. I highly recommend to all atheists and non-believers (in religion) and anyone else even remotely interested in watching Pat Donnel's videos on YouTube. I do NOT recommend watching Fitna (movie discussed on this thread), as its more racist than anything else, video clips by Pat Donell are much more useful and educational. He's quite brilliant. I disagreed with couple points of his here and there, but mostly this guy's just very smart. I couldn't help but watch all his videos and make some point form notes for future discussions.
He's funny but he makes most of his up and exaggerates the rest. If you can't see that then you're a bit slow. But yes, he is really funny :stongue:
Fir3start3r
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Originally posted by Lemonad
Islamaphobia has hit TA!
No. A phobia would be scared of something one didn't understand...
Halcyon+On+On
I don't believe that is actually in the criteria for the term.
Fir3start3r
quote:
Originally posted by Magnetonium
That does it. I cannot hide it any further. I highly recommend to all atheists and non-believers (in religion) and anyone else even remotely interested in watching Pat Donnel's videos on YouTube. I do NOT recommend watching Fitna (movie discussed on this thread), as its more racist than anything else, video clips by Pat Donell are much more useful and educational. He's quite brilliant. I disagreed with couple points of his here and there, but mostly this guy's just very smart. I couldn't help but watch all his videos and make some point form notes for future discussions.
