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Gay people are a threat to my life and to the american way! (pg. 13)
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| winston |
| quote: | Originally posted by nchs09
lol LOUD NOISES
I fail to see how having 2 same sex parents will make things difficult for a kid growing up. Kids are opened to whatever happens, so if parents teach their children that it is ok for their friend to have 2 dads, it shouldnt be a problem. I guess the only problem the kids might encounter is if they have kids in school with whos parents have the same mentality as some of the poeple on this thread have. |
LOL IGNORED... |
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| nchs09 |
| quote: | Originally posted by winston
LOL IGNORED... |
LOL NICE! |
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| idoru |
| quote: | Originally posted by boris_the_bear
Looking forward to see you spend less time on tearing my persona to pieces and more time on a rational (Wikipedia-style) discussion.
Was nice talking to (some of) you! :) |
Also known as, "I'm being beat to the ground, I really should leave before I embarrass my ignorant ass any further." |
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| boris_the_bear |
Whatever:) live a happy life!;)
P.S. being "beat to the ground" does not unconditionally mean that I am wrong. This is inevitable when a whole bunch of people argue with one or two people, regardless of which party is right. And hey, I didn't say I gave up. I just need to focus on my studying. I understand why you find that hard to believe - because I'm still posting :stongue: well. bb |
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| idoru |
| quote: | Originally posted by boris_the_bear
Whatever:) live a happy life!;) |
Oh, I will. Here's to you leading an enlightened life when thirty and forty years down the road you look at all of the married gay couples and their adopted children and go, "Huh, this really isn't bad at all." |
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| weymouth |
Here's a question for you all and I'm wondering what you think. Can you make the argument that the evidence supporting negative effects on children that are raised in a fatherless or motherless home can be applied to a child with two fathers or two mothers?
Here are some examples:
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Fatherless children are at a dramatically greater risk of drug and alcohol abuse, mental illness, suicide, poor educational performance, teen pregnancy, and criminality.
Source: U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, National Center for Health Statistics, Survey on Child Health, Washington, DC, 1993.
A family structure index -- a composite index based on the annual rate of children involved in divorce and the percentage of families with children present that are female-headed -- is a strong predictor of suicide among young adult and adolescent white males.
Source: Patricia L. McCall and Kenneth C. Land, "Trends in White Male Adolescent, Young-Adult and Elderly Suicide: Are There Common Underlying Structural Factors?" Social Science Research 23, 1994.
Fatherless children are at dramatically greater risk of suicide.
Source: U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, National Center for Health Statistics, Survey on Child Health, Washington, DC, 1993.
Boys who grow up in father-absent homes are more likely that those in father-present homes to have trouble establishing appropriate sex roles and gender identity.
Source: P.L. Adams, J.R. Milner, and N.A. Schrepf, Fatherless Children, New York, Wiley Press, 1984.
Children with fathers at home tend to do better in school, are less prone to depression and are more successful in relationships. Children from one-parent families achieve less and get into trouble more than children from two parent families.
Source: One Parent Families and Their Children: The School's Most Significant Minority, conducted by The Consortium for the Study of School Needs of Children from One Parent Families, co sponsored by the National Association of Elementary School Principals and the Institute for Development of Educational Activities, a division of the Charles F. Kettering Foundation, Arlington, VA., 1980
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There are a ton of studies like this. The real question though is "Are these negative effects because of a certain missing sex in the family unit, which would cause some concern for homosexual families, or is it because of the absence of second loving parent?"
Does studies showing the absence of a fatherly figure in a child's life and the negative effects on that child have any bearing for the argument to keep the conventional family structure? |
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| boris_the_bear |
| quote: | Originally posted by idoru
Oh, I will. Here's to you leading an enlightened life when thirty and forty years down the road you look at all of the married gay couples and their adopted children and go, "Huh, this really isn't bad at all." |
I have no prejudice here. Anything that happens is what was meant to happen, at the end of the day. Thank you:) |
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| idoru |
| quote: | Originally posted by boris_the_bear
I have no prejudice here. |
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| colonelcrisp |
| quote: | Originally posted by weymouth
Here's a question for you all and I'm wondering what you think. Can you make the argument that the evidence supporting negative effects on children that are raised in a fatherless or motherless home can be applied to a child with two fathers or two mothers?
Here are some examples:
There are a ton of studies like this. The real question though is "Are these negative effects because of a certain missing sex in the family unit, which would cause some concern for homosexual families, or is it because of the absence of second loving parent?"
Does studies showing the absence of a fatherly figure in a child's life and the negative effects on that child have any bearing for the argument to keep the conventional family structure? |
so based on that we should make single fathers and single mothers illegal too? |
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| weymouth |
| quote: | Originally posted by colonelcrisp
so based on that we should make single fathers and single mothers illegal too? |
Of course not, it's not illegal for gay couples to marry in the states that allow it either. The question is if the eroding away of the typical family structure a problem to the well-being of a society. |
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| Halcyon+On+On |
| If some of you are capable of making it through your adult lives thusfar while being utterly ing stupid, I fail to see how having gay parents could essentially hinder a child. |
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| colonelcrisp |
| quote: | Originally posted by weymouth
Of course not, it's not illegal for gay couples to marry in the states that allow it either. The question is if the eroding away of the typical family structure a problem to the well-being of a society. |
Personally i view promoting the total acceptance of everyones lifestyle choice as being normal is not eroding the family structure nor is it ill affecting the well-being of society. If anything it will strengthen the well being. |
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