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Gay people are a threat to my life and to the american way! (pg. 14)
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| Halcyon+On+On |
| quote: | Originally posted by weymouth
The question is if the eroding away of the typical family structure a problem to the well-being of a society. |
There is nothing innately 'typical' about the family structure. There never has been. |
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| weymouth |
| quote: | Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
If some of you are capable of making it through your adult lives thusfar while being utterly ing stupid, I fail to see how having gay parents could essentially hinder a child. |
Depends on if you believe that missing a certain adult sex in a child's life would in some ways hinder that child socially or mentally. I know in my life there are some things that I can talk to my father about that I couldn't talk to my mother about and vice versa. Does missing that interaction detract from the development of a child? According to studies where a child only had one sex in their family unit(single parents) it does. |
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| idoru |
| quote: | Originally posted by weymouth
Depends on if you believe that missing a certain adult sex in a child's life would in some ways hinder that child socially or mentally. I know in my life there are some things that I can talk to my father about that I couldn't talk to my mother about and vice versa. Does missing that interaction detract from the development of a child? According to studies where a child only had one sex in their family unit(single parents) it does. |
I'm the same way with my parents (I talk to them each about different issues). However, who's to say that each homosexual parent won't differ in things that child is able to discuss with? Just because they're the same sex doesn't mean that they're each only approachable about the exact same things. You're also citing studies of single families and trying to relate it to a discussion of a couple. |
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| weymouth |
| quote: | Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
There is nothing innately 'typical' about the family structure. There never has been. |
Explain. A family structure of a mother and father is the definition of typical. Exhibiting the essential characteristics of a group or conforming to a type. A homosexual couple would be atypical. |
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| MeLLyMeL |
As long as there is one butch to play sports with and 1 lipstick to go shopping with.
say no to butch on butch crimes.
i mean marriages!
edit - children.. whatever. |
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| weymouth |
| quote: | Originally posted by idoru
I'm the same way with my parents (I talk to them each about different issues). However, who's to say that each homosexual parent won't differ in things that child is able to discuss with? Just because they're the same sex doesn't mean that they're each only approachable about the exact same things. You're also citing studies of single families and trying to relate it to a discussion of a couple. |
I agree, a child could definitely go to the different parent for different needs. However, who's to say that each different sex parent wouldn't allow the child with more opportunities of mental growth due to gender specific issues. For example, two fathers telling their daughter about menstruation. The daughter would inherently be more comfortable talking about that subject with a female that emphasizes with her needs. |
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| Halcyon+On+On |
| quote: | Originally posted by weymouth
Explain. A family structure of a mother and father is the definition of typical. Exhibiting the essential characteristics of a group or conforming to a type. A homosexual couple would be atypical. |
The only structure that necessitates the contribution of a 'mother' and a 'father' is that of our genetic makeup.
When you speak of 'family', however - just what do you mean? Who a child is brought up with? Well there's are innumerable different structures to that device that have determined an equally innumerable amount of different people. 'Typical' means absolutely nothing whatsoever.
If your point is that the atomic family is necessary to facilitate the means for perpetuating nothing more than the atomic family structure... then I suppose you're right in that regard. But not only are you right; you're 87 years old and nobody really cares what you think. |
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| Halcyon+On+On |
| quote: | Originally posted by weymouth
I agree, a child could definitely go to the different parent for different needs. However, who's to say that each different sex parent wouldn't allow the child with more opportunities of mental growth due to gender specific issues. For example, two fathers telling their daughter about menstruation. The daughter would inherently be more comfortable talking about that subject with a female that emphasizes with her needs. |
This is a good point! See, it's clear that your parents are heterosexuals through and through, because they obviously did an awfful job at explaining homosexuality to you, explaining both your relative ignorance and fear regarding it... right? |
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| idoru |
| quote: | Originally posted by weymouth
I agree, a child could definitely go to the different parent for different needs. However, who's to say that each different sex parent wouldn't allow the child with more opportunities of mental growth due to gender specific issues. For example, two fathers telling their daughter about menstruation. The daughter would inherently be more comfortable talking about that subject with a female that emphasizes with her needs. |
Because prior to hitting puberty, they wouldn't have brought the child up to be completely comfortable talking to either of them about it, nor would they educate themselves on the matter. Yes, homosexual couples will be ill-prepared for these kinds of things.
You don't need to have a vagina to explain the menstrual cycle and you certainly don't need one in order to be able to communicate properly with a female. Hell, by the ignorance you seem to be exhibiting here in regards to the topic, wouldn't most people consider homosexual males to be far more "feminine" in the first place, thus allowing them to identify easier with their potential "daughter(s)"? |
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| Jake Benson |
| quote: | Originally posted by boris_the_bear
There you go. Another valid argument from a representative and a point for the gay community. You're doing them a bad favor though.. ;) |
I think a gay guy beating the out of you would be a valid point for the gay community. |
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| weymouth |
| quote: | Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
This is a good point! See, it's clear that your parents are heterosexuals through and through, because they obviously did an awfful job at explaining homosexuality to you, explaining both your relative ignorance and fear regarding it... right? |
What are you talking about? Please explain my relative ignorance and fear regarding homosexuality based on what I've said. When have I once attacked you based on what you have written? So far you have said:
utterly ing stupid
you're 87 years old and nobody really cares what you think
ignorance and fear regarding homosexuality
I don't understand how someone can get so defensive over a discussion. |
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| Jake Benson |
| quote: | Originally posted by weymouth
Does missing that interaction detract from the development of a child? According to studies where a child only had one sex in their family unit(single parents) it does. |
It's not illegal for a single parent to raise a child. |
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