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Male-Female Friendships (pg. 3)
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Moral Hazard
quote:
Originally posted by jennypie
Simplicity > convoluted over-articulation.


only for simple people.
Silky Johnson
That's ok, you need lots of words and explanation to understand things, whereas the keener, more abstract thinker can derive meaning out of only a few words and little explanation. ;)
Moral Hazard
quote:
Originally posted by jennypie
That's ok, you need lots of words and explanation to understand things, whereas the keener, more abstract thinker can derive meaning out of only a fews and little explanation. ;)


Keep telling yourself that.;)
Silky Johnson
*there there, there there*
colonelcrisp
quote:
Originally posted by Moral Hazard
Indeed; however, the desire to hit dat doesn't mean the relationship is anything more or less then friendship.


True, but the valid existence of a friendship was never the argument.

to put it into parlimentary debate format

Be it resolved that it is impossible to have a friendship with a member of the opposite sex without one party or both having thoughts or desires of a non platonic nature.
Akridrot
quote:
Originally posted by Moral Hazard
only for simple people.


There are times where the opposite is true, but simplicity is often more effective than being convoluted.
Akridrot
What is so impossible about this...think of all the women in the world that you would never want to have sex with. I mean they are simply not your type and never will be. That effectively turns those women into men. Befriending them will not eventually lead to sex if you don't want to. Especially if she feels the same way about you.

Let's say she does end up having feelings for you. Does that mean that sex will have to occur? No. Look at it this way: If you aren't gay, you wouldn't reluctantly have sex with a male friend if he happened to be a closet homosexual just because you two were good friends, would you?
boris_the_bear
I was having a chat on this topic with a female friend of mine last night (I was deeply in love with her for 3 years until I met my girlfriend.. damn I'd still do it with her). We came to a conclusion that a pure friendship between a male and a female (given both are young, attractive) is highly unlikely, especially if they are spending a lot of time together under different circumstances (university, common friends, parties etc). Most simply stay "friends" because of the inability of at least one of them to have a more intimate relationship with the other for different reasons (one is dating\married to your friend, a friend of your girlfriend etc). Moral is a complex obstacle deliberately made to rule out these issues but nature itself is pretty ing simple - a dick belongs in a vag. I don't want to sound cynical because I don't like cynics, but I have come to realize that a lot of things in life are less romantic than I thought.

c0r version: very unlikely
Akridrot
quote:
Originally posted by boris_the_bear
c0r version: very unlikely


It's possible to find someone attractive and think that "it wouldn't work it for so many reasons" at the same time. Whether "it" is just having sex or upgrading the relationship. Even if both of you are single.
Cpt.Cocaine
quote:
Originally posted by boris_the_bear
I have come to realize that a lot of things in life are less romantic than I thought.


That's not a bad thing though. Once you realize that life isn't all rainbows and unicorns you start appreciating things for what they really are. Something most people still haven't figured out.

colonelcrisp
quote:
Originally posted by Akridrot
It's possible to find someone attractive and think that "it wouldn't work it for so many reasons" at the same time. Whether "it" is just having sex or upgrading the relationship. Even if both of you are single.


hypothetically, while i have some female friends that i wouldn't touch with a 10 foot pole in a sexual way because they are mingas, the possibility does exist that they may want to take a ride on my pocket rocket.
Sand Leaper
The ladder theory says:

A guy and a girl can only be friends if one of these three conditions are present:

1. The guy is gay
2. The guy doesn't find the girl attractive
3. The guy finds the girl attractive, but is currently doing better

In all other cases, friendship won't work, as sex will always be in the way.

quote:
Originally posted by Moral Hazard
Indeed; however, the desire to hit dat doesn't mean the relationship is anything more or less then friendship.


The OP defined the term "friendship" as a male and a female having a relationship without wanting to bang each other. Thus, when this relationship stops being or never was platonic and non-sexual because one party wants to bang the other, it can no longer be considered a friendship. How the relationship plays out in practice doesn't change that.
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