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Accents (pg. 5)
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| Slylee |
| quote: | Originally posted by Chaska
Yeah, I got it :)
I'm just asking to myself why I would want to sound like everybody else where I live when my very own accent got me laid a lot more because I'm considered "exotic"? :p |
then you would also be proving my point. that you are purposely keeping your accent for reasons other than the fact that you just can't quite grasp the new language accent. you have a sense of pride in your heritage and you want everyone to know, "hey i'm not originally from here".
GOD IS IT THAT ING HARD TO UNDERSTAND MY POINT PEOPLE? |
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| Frenchie |
| But you can't purposely keep an accent unless you're fobby and/or refuse to learn the new language and use it fluently. Trust me, no one purposely keeps an accent to sound foolish in a new country/province. |
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| Slylee |
| quote: | Originally posted by Frenchie
But you can't purposely keep an accent unless you're fobby and/or refuse to learn the new language and use it fluently. Trust me, no one purposely keeps an accent to sound foolish in a new country/province. |
a 40 something year old chick does who has been living here for 30 years and is married to a jewish-american guy probably does for reasons that chaka just talked about. lol |
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| Frenchie |
She's lame, really lame. It doesn't have anything to do with heritage and the people who say that just need a cover story for why they can't lose it. Can't is the word, not won't.
Some people can't, yes. Like what has been said...sometimes your accent just comes out unknowingly..or when you're drunk (which happens a lot with me). But if you've been here for 30 years, are young AND around people who are speaking the language which probably forces you to have to communicate... there is no reason to have a thick accent that makes you sound like you just stepped of the boat. No. |
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| Domesticated |
| quote: | Originally posted by Frenchie
But you can't purposely keep an accent unless you're fobby and/or refuse to learn the new language and use it fluently. Trust me, no one purposely keeps an accent to sound foolish in a new country/province. |
That's absolute crap. My very first job was at a fish and chip shop run by a Greek couple, they had been here for 30 years conversing with people for 8 hours a day and had extremely strong accents. Same deal at the local Chinese restaurant.
What I find harder to grapple with is people who adopt accents after a short time in a new country.
p.s Americans don't really lose their accents. You may think you do, but it's nearly always detectable to outsiders. |
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| Frenchie |
| You can limit your vocabulary when it's dealing with a restaurant, though. |
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| Domesticated |
| quote: | Originally posted by Frenchie
You can limit your vocabulary when it's dealing with a restaurant, though. |
Then how do you explain that 2nd and even 3rd generation wogs here have accents when they've never spoken a language other than English?
Or that 2nd or 3rd generation Jews still say "dooawg" instead of "dog"? |
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| Frenchie |
I guess they pick it up by listening.
I haven't come across anyone who has been here from another country for more than 15 years that still had a thick as mud accent. |
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| shadow_419 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Slylee
then you would also be proving my point. that you are purposely keeping your accent for reasons other than the fact that you just can't quite grasp the new language accent. you have a sense of pride in your heritage and you want everyone to know, "hey i'm not originally from here".
GOD IS IT THAT ING HARD TO UNDERSTAND MY POINT PEOPLE? |
As far as I've seen, people with accents are still thinking in their first language more often than not. Even though they've been using a new language for years, their brains still think in their first language and that skews proper pronunciation. |
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| Chaska |
| quote: | Originally posted by Slylee
then you would also be proving my point. that you are purposely keeping your accent for reasons other than the fact that you just can't quite grasp the new language accent. you have a sense of pride in your heritage and you want everyone to know, "hey i'm not originally from here".
GOD IS IT THAT ING HARD TO UNDERSTAND MY POINT PEOPLE? |
I'm not agreeing with you. I'm just saying that I don't see the need to make the effort to clean up your accent unless it's for professional reasons. I took many classes for it and while they helped, like I said in a previous post, some things just come out unconsciously. I am proud of my country (which is not really my heritage) and all but trust me, I'm not trying to keep my accent, and I don't need people to know "I'm not originally from here" by my accent because they can just tell by looking at my face ;) |
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| nchs09 |
| This happens to me..my accent gets worst the more i drink....i dont know if that happens to you guys or not. |
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| Slylee |
| quote: | Originally posted by Chaska
I'm not agreeing with you. I'm just saying that I don't see the need to make the effort to clean up your accent unless it's for professional reasons. I took many classes for it and while they helped, like I said in a previous post, some things just come out unconsciously. I am proud of my country (which is not really my heritage) and all but trust me, I'm not trying to keep my accent, and I don't need people to know "I'm not originally from here" by my accent because they can just tell by looking at my face ;) |
yea and you also asked why you would want to change your accent to blend with the country you're in, when the one you originally have helps get you laid. lol |
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