Originally posted by Chaska
Even if you don't speak the language fluently, you can still tell. It's helping me with improving my italian (and I don't speak it fluently yet).
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Slylee
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Originally posted by Renzo
There is a difference between a strong accent and an accent.
The answer to your original question, Jamie, is never. Never. Never. Never. You will always have a Hispanic accent. Now if you're asking how long does it take to rid yourself of a strong accent, that is a different question altogether. It obviously varies.
ok my best friend's mom is 100% colombian and he also has 3 sisters who all spoke spanish fluently in the house all the time when he was growing up. he's half canadian too so he's like mixed. but still, he had spanish being spoken all the time when he was little and he spoke it when he was little but he learned english and always spoke that and if you talk to him, he sounds like a ing white boy from florida.
actually...that just made me think of chach too. he sounds like a total white boy and i bet his first language was spanish. he has a very typical south florida type of accent and he's been all over (grew up in canada and lived in spain for a while too). he has totally adapted to the accent and language down here and you would never know he was spanish if not for his looks.
so there chach proves my point. good night.
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shadow_419
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Originally posted by Slylee
...that just made me think of chach too. he sounds like a total white boy and i bet his first language was spanish. he has a very typical south florida type of accent and he's been all over (grew up in canada
so there chach doesn't prove my point. good night.
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I don't speak with a Spanish accent even though it's my first language because I grew up in the USA.
Slylee
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Originally posted by shadow_419
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I don't speak with a Spanish accent even though it's my first language because I grew up in the USA.
ok but i was mainly referring to the chick i work with (the main example) and she's lived here since she was a kid and is married to an american guy. nice try though:p
and people are trying to say that NO MATTER WHAT, no matter how long you live somewhere and bla bla bla, you're always going to have your first native language accent no matter what. and that's not true. chach is proof of that.
i mean seriously YOU just proved my point. you don't still walk around talking with a spanish accent. you've lived here long enough and it has just faded naturally right?
Frenchie
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Originally posted by Slylee
when i attempt to speak spanish (i know a little and have lots of spanish friends), i say it with a perfect spanish accent though. i'm always complimented on my accent and how well i can pronounce words in that language. i don't say it like a white person trying to talk spanish. and if i were to get so good at it that i was a fluent speaker, i would still speak it with that great pronounciation like the spanish people do...not like a white person does. like some guy saying, "hey there, done-day esta el banyo?" lol you see what i mean? i guess not everyone is good at picking up on accents of other languages. :conf:
I didn't say anything about not being able to speak it because I think in another language. I speak it pretty well for a gringa as well. You can obviously tell it's not my mother tongue but people think I've been speaking it for a while but haven't been using it constantly. One day I shall conquer it.:mad:
I can imitate accents well, but that is such a little fraction when it comes to learning the language as a whole.
samochod
I look down on people who have a Hyundai Accent.
Slylee
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Originally posted by Frenchie
I didn't say anything about not being able to speak it because I think in another language. I speak it pretty well for a gringa as well. You can obviously tell it's not my mother tongue but people think I've been speaking it for a while but haven't been using it constantly. One day I shall conquer it.:mad:
I can imitate accents well, but that is such a little fraction when it comes to learning the language as a whole.
i'm sorry what? i'm sleeping. i didn't hear you.
Renzo
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Originally posted by Slylee
ok my best friend's mom is 100% colombian and he also has 3 sisters who all spoke spanish fluently in the house all the time when he was growing up. he's half canadian too so he's like mixed. but still, he had spanish being spoken all the time when he was little and he spoke it when he was little but he learned english and always spoke that and if you talk to him, he sounds like a ing white boy from florida.
actually...that just made me think of chach too. he sounds like a total white boy and i bet his first language was spanish. he has a very typical south florida type of accent and he's been all over (grew up in canada and lived in spain for a while too). he has totally adapted to the accent and language down here and you would never know he was spanish if not for his looks.
so there chach proves my point. good night.
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It's like speaking to a wall. Chach DOES NOT SPEAK LIKE A WHITEBOY. He just speaks English well, is all. He doesn't have a strong accent by any means. But he has a South Floridian Hispanic accent. An accent DOES NOT MEAN "speak like a refugee." An accent simply means someone with a trained ear can detect you are not from that particular country. I'm referring to country-to-country-accents here, of course.
I guarantee you I speak English as well or even better than Chach. But I don't speak like a whiteboy. I just speak the language very well. Jamie, I know more about this subject than you do. Please stop being stubborn.
shadow_419
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Originally posted by Slylee
ok but i was mainly referring to the chick i work with (the main example) and she's lived here since she was a kid and is married to an american guy. nice try though:p
and people are trying to say that NO MATTER WHAT, no matter how long you live somewhere and bla bla bla, you're always going to have your first native language accent no matter what. and that's not true. chach is proof of that.
i mean seriously YOU just proved my point. you don't still walk around talking with a spanish accent. you've lived here long enough and it has just faded naturally right?
No, it just didn't have time to set. I grew up only speaking Spanish with my parents, but speaking English everywhere else. Sesame Street was stronger than my parents. :D
raynbo
My mom is native Spanish speaker, but learned English from the beginning of primary school and is fluent. but she can't hear the differences in subtle sounds, like the yellow/jello thing and sheet/. So even though she tries to soften her accent, since she can't hear these differences, it doesn't always work. Maybe your coworker doesn't even realize she's pronouncing things this way?
Zewad
I didn't read everything, but...
Arnold Swartzenegger... aka Governator has been in the US for like 35 years and still has an accent. I highly doubt he speaks German on a daily basis.
I did hear some years back when he was still doing movies that he had to get coached into keeping his accent b/c he was losing it. Don't know if that was true, but do recall something like that...
Slylee
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Originally posted by Renzo
It's like speaking to a wall. Chach DOES NOT SPEAK LIKE A WHITEBOY. He just speaks English well, is all. He doesn't have a strong accent by any means. But he has a South Floridian Hispanic accent. An accent DOES NOT MEAN "speak like a refugee." An accent simply means someone with a trained ear can detect you are not from that particular country. I'm referring to country-to-country-accents here, of course.
I guarantee you I speak English as well or even better than Chach. But I don't speak like a whiteboy. I just speak the language very well. Jamie, I know more about this subject than you do. Please stop being stubborn.
i'm sorry but chach does not have an ounce of hispanic accent when he talks. if anything, he talks like a surfer or something. jesus YOU stop being stubborn, wtf.
