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Stimming Reflections Album (pg. 10)
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| Omega_Blue |
jesus christ people
dynamics apply to any stylistic changes in a piece; i.e. loudness, softness, staccato, fading in/out, velocity, etc.
and the album- good, but forgettable. a couple good tracks (moreso the melodic ones i enjoyed) with what felt like a few fillers. much like any artist album i'm rarely impressed with the whole product (except for maybe the involver comps) and usually just like a few tracks here or there |
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| Kismet7 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
See, this is exactly why I didn't want to respond in the first place. |
haha, dude your definition really did'nt define it, it creates more questions. What makes it tougher to accept is that you made it seem like im off base, but you have some sort of hidden passage way to the truth we seek. But yah, lets close this discussion...opinions aside, hopefully we all learned a lil a bit about dynamics in music. |
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| Kismet7 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Omega_Blue
jesus christ people
dynamics apply to any stylistic changes in a piece; i.e. loudness, softness, staccato, fading in/out, velocity, etc.
and the album- good, but forgettable. a couple good tracks (moreso the melodic ones i enjoyed) with what felt like a few fillers. much like any artist album i'm rarely impressed with the whole product (except for maybe the involver comps) and usually just like a few tracks here or there |
I would'nt say its memorable either. I don't think anyone is making that distinction here, its simply good. Stimming did well for his first album, and showed he is a capable producer. And now to slowly fade away from this thread, unless someone makes some crazy off the wall post that requires a reply. Adios (hopefully). |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by Kismet7
What you are obviously saying now is, that only classical music can be dynamic, which in your mind somehow... my statement "Song For Isabelle by Stimming is dynamic piece of electronic music" is still a wrong statement. FFS you're doing it wrong, so wrong. And to add to that, you are using images of .WAVs as your only basis of comparing dynamics, and in that comparing 2 completely different genres of music. In order to set the next trap and your ongoing fails properly, I need you to claim two things that you are basically saying, and if you can't you basically disagreeing with your post.
1)Classical music is the only form of dynamic music, therefore electronic music that doesn't have the drastic drops in volume is not dynamic.
2)Comparing .Wavs is a sufficient way to decide whether a piece of music, without knowing the genre it is in, is a good way to decide whether it is a dynamic piece of music.
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I'm not going to mess about with the Socratic method. I've never "obviously" claimed that only classical music can be anything. That's a strawman argument. As for comparing "completely different genres of music" (!), nary a few posts ago you were comparing gabba with pop and with techno, and comparing this Stimming track with uncited, generalised ideas of "a lot of techno". Have a slice of hypocrisy cake.
I'm thoroughly bored of letting you selectively answer my posts, ignore the problematic bits and funnel the debate into you insipid "traps". You've done your level best to turn this into my failed understanding vs The Truth, but you've only done so by milking the out of my misinterpretation of what you originally said.
Now once again: there any many definitions of dynamic, and all we're doing here is clarifying which you are using. There's no rule that the word "dynamic" has to refer to one meaning in one context, as has been made abundantly clear in this thread. Now if you want anyone to believe that what you've defined dynamics as is The Truth, then cite some ing evidence.
| quote: | Originally posted by Kismet7
I would agree to this. And this thread could use more people that understand this rather simple concept, that seems to consistently allude SYSTEM-J. |
It's "elude", you clown. So much for you being the master of meaning. What's more, I find it ironic because it seems to have "alluded" [sic] you that you haven't demonstrated why this track is notably dynamic yet. Modulated leads as old as acid house at least, and ambient intros have been cropping up since the dawn of time. Since your original post foregrounded the dynamic qualities your task is to prove why it's very dynamic, and not just averagely so. I suppose this is where those esoteric "micro-nuances" come into play, right? |
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| RebeL9 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Kismet7
You like to make up , I never said 10,000 members don't know what dynamic music is, just the vocal minority who give reviews, specifically in this thread seem to not know, thats what TA meant in relation to RA. And since, obviously you dont know what dynamic music is (based on not finding a fairly dynamic piece of music as dynamic), you're not setting a great example for TA to rally behind. And what do you want Stimming to make Euro Dance music? He is obviously making underground music for people who actually listen to the music, if you find it boring or repetetive, thats because it likely wasnt made for you. You come off delusional when you consistently make up things you perceive that i've said, stop responding to this thread man. I don't know if its language barrier that has you translating what i've said into your own meanings, or delusions, but a few people are already handling the discussion, and I can only take on so many people throwing out off the wall assumptions. |
there is lot of good underground music and lot of ty underground music. being underground doesn't give you a seal of quality. Several people, including me didn't find this release to be interesting. What the is the big deal?
And your constant reference to RA is hilarious. Can you stop doing that and stop making a clown out of yourself? I've already given a reply to why RA differs from TA. |
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| bas |
| Maybe he meant "very diynamic" |
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| Kismet7 |
| quote: | Originally posted by RebeL9
there is lot of good underground music and lot of ty underground music. being underground doesn't give you a seal of quality. Several people, including me didn't find this release to be interesting. What the is the big deal?
And your constant reference to RA is hilarious. Can you stop doing that and stop making a clown out of yourself? I've already given a reply to why RA differs from TA. |
LOL...your fine to have your opinion, im just saying you probably didn't actually listen to it the way the artist meant it to be listened to. Did you? I did and I find to be far from a boring album.
You are quite the moron if you think TA is in some way above RA. What so wrong about RA patrons, they seem to actually have a healthy culture that still enjoys a good amount of the music that is covered, music that made them sign up to the website they are part of. While over here, especially in the review section, it seems like you guys hate much of the music, as if you guys have some sort of elite taste of music. And your reply on why RA differs from TA sucks hairy balls. |
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| enydo |
| quote: | Originally posted by Kismet7
LOL...your fine to have your opinion, im just saying you probably didn't actually listen to it the way the artist meant it to be listened to. Did you? I did and I find to be far from a boring album.
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This is probably the dumbest comment I've ever ing seen, it's MUSIC. |
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| Kismet7 |
| quote: | Originally posted by enydo
This is probably the dumbest comment I've ever ing seen, it's MUSIC. |
Yah, and this is a forum about music, which results in dialogue about music.
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| Kismet7 |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
I'm not going to mess about with the Socratic method. I've never "obviously" claimed that only classical music can be anything. That's a strawman argument. As for comparing "completely different genres of music" (!), nary a few posts ago you were comparing gabba with pop and with techno, and comparing this Stimming track with uncited, generalised ideas of "a lot of techno". Have a slice of hypocrisy cake.
I'm thoroughly bored of letting you selectively answer my posts, ignore the problematic bits and funnel the debate into you insipid "traps". You've done your level best to turn this into my failed understanding vs The Truth, but you've only done so by milking the out of my misinterpretation of what you originally said.
Now once again: there any many definitions of dynamic, and all we're doing here is clarifying which you are using. There's no rule that the word "dynamic" has to refer to one meaning in one context, as has been made abundantly clear in this thread. Now if you want anyone to believe that what you've defined dynamics as is The Truth, then cite some ing evidence.
It's "elude", you clown. So much for you being the master of meaning. What's more, I find it ironic because it seems to have "alluded" [sic] you that you haven't demonstrated why this track is notably dynamic yet. Modulated leads as old as acid house at least, and ambient intros have been cropping up since the dawn of time. Since your original post foregrounded the dynamic qualities your task is to prove why it's very dynamic, and not just averagely so. I suppose this is where those esoteric "micro-nuances" come into play, right? |
It is now official, your head is so far up your ass, that you look pregnant. Accept it, you really did'nt know what you were talking about in this thread, and still have no clue, yet so stubborn that you cant accept your failures here. Discussing it any furthur with you would be kicking a dog that needs food, not kicks. |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by Kismet7
It is now official, your head is so far up your ass, that you look pregnant. Accept it, you really did'nt know what you were talking about in this thread, and still have no clue, yet so stubborn that you cant accept your failures here. Discussing it any furthur with you would be kicking a dog that needs food, not kicks. |
You're really making friends and influencing people in this thread, aren't you? Cite some ing evidence or go home. |
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| Kismet7 |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
You're really making friends and influencing people in this thread, aren't you? Cite some ing evidence or go home. |
Cite evidence of what, that your stubborn and ignorant? I'd just have to repost anything you've said in this thread, from your "you need lessons on dynamics" which put you in the odd position of getting the lessons, and subsequently maintaining your ignorance about what dynamics are, to limiting dynamics to classical music, even though I gave you examples of dynamics in a number of genres. Friends and influence? What are you on about, im just sharing ideas here. |
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