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Stimming Reflections Album (pg. 12)
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by Kismet7
I think I got it, you are a masochist, if I kicked you around in this thread non stop, and attached a carrot to your head and asked you to chase it (like I already did), you'd chase it as long as the carrot was still there, which would be forever. But since I do realise you still don't understand dynamics in music, as you've shown many times over in this thread, that I really can't help you understand it, and I will leave it to "time will heal things" LOL. So lets hope for an epiphany, that you can finally understand what dynamics in music is. Other than that, you are hopeless. |
In other words, you have no evidence, no proof and jack to back up anything you've said in this thread. Thanks for playing. |
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| Clovis |
| quote: | Originally posted by Kismet7
Cite evidence of what, that your stubborn and ignorant? I'd just have to repost anything you've said in this thread, from your "you need lessons on dynamics" which put you in the odd position of getting the lessons, and subsequently maintaining your ignorance about what dynamics are, to limiting dynamics to classical music, even though I gave you examples of dynamics in a number of genres. Friends and influence? What are you on about, im just sharing ideas here. |
You're not sharing ideas, you're trying to explain to other people why their perception of music is wrong, when it isn't.
Big difference.
As for Stimming's album being dynamic, go listen to some ing Alice Coltrane... |
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| Kismet7 |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
In other words, you have no evidence, no proof and jack to back up anything you've said in this thread. Thanks for playing. |
Thanks for failing, face it, you acted like you knew a subject in music, you didnt know jack , you were taken to school, and now the damage control by making it seem like you've won something. When all you did was belly flop throughout the whole discussion, which means not only are you stubborn and ignorant, but you quite delusional. Congrats you win at something, but definately nothing that has to do with music. |
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| Kismet7 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Clovis
You're not sharing ideas, you're trying to explain to other people why their perception of music is wrong, when it isn't.
Big difference.
As for Stimming's album being dynamic, go listen to some ing Alice Coltrane... |
Sharing ideas is exactly what i'm doing, how you perceieve them is your own perception of reality I suppose. Can you cite exactly where I said someones perception was wrong, if anything im trying to explain the music and why people enjoy certain attributes to music like dynamics, and that music if it is to be reviewed, it should be listened to deeply in order for the artists vision to be translated properly, in order for an accurate review to be made. I questioned that part of the review process being done, which is what started the dialogue about the music. And I said if someone actually listened to teh album the way it was meant to be heard by the artist, they would'nt find it repetetive nor boring.
And uh, what the does Alice Coltrane have to do with a piece of electronic music by Stimming being dynamic? You've made the same mistake System-J has been making by comparing Classical music to Electronic music, and saying "buh buh this genre is moaaaaarrr dynamicssszzz!" LOL...its like some dude fumbling into a conversation saying, "but but but socks are better than shoes!!!!!" during a discussion about shoes. When neither of them are competing, and if you understand dynamics in music, you would know that many genres of musics are capable of being dynamic.
ps: had some bomb ass lasanga for lunch, damn that was good. |
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| Jasperovitsj |
| quote: | Originally posted by Kismet7
Sharing ideas is exactly what i'm doing, how you perceieve them is your own perception of reality I suppose. |
Replace 'ideas' by 'music', and 'I'm' by 'Stimming'. |
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| elFreak |
| kismet, i am starting to think that you are worse than an asot fan. |
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| plaxx |
| You ate Ass Lasagna? |
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| Kismet7 |
| quote: | Originally posted by RebeL9
So you listen to it in a different way than the rest of us? That's why you wank over it like a pig? Explain to me why your "way of listening" is superior oh mighty wanker! |
Mighty wanker? What are you 10? Your pigeating ass probably skimmed through the album on Juno or Beatport, and came in here ting out of your mouth with your review. | quote: | it really put me to sleep.
boring |
In which alternate reality do you consider that a review of an album? As someone who thinks of themselves as artistic (you mix unicorn trance right?), as an artist do you consider your review sufficient enough for an album that likely took months to make? When you make your mix cd's and get a "meh", do you not question what is behind the meh or if they actually listened to the mix you worked so hard on? And a mix is far more easier to make than album, since pretty much anyone with 1 hand and half a brain can make and program a mix (which i'm thinking many sadly extract their credibility from.)
I guess what i'm saying here, is If you can't give a proper review, why give an opinion or review of an album? Why not just ignore the thread, the music could do without your poor review. Even my mini review is thin for what an album deserves. So based on your review, I wondered if you ahd actually heard the album in the context and manner that the artist would have liked a person to listen to it in, in order for his creation and expression to actually make sense to the world. |
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| Clovis |
| quote: | Originally posted by Kismet7
And I said if someone actually listened to teh album the way it was meant to be heard by the artist, they would'nt find it repetetive nor boring. |
That is not true. Essentially, you're attempting to argue that the sole reason for there being any negative reviews of this album are because people are not listening to it the right way, a charge that you have absolutely no way of validating since you don't know how anyone on this forum listened to it at all, basically hearsay. I bought the album, Jay bought the album, I listened to it as I listen to all the music I buy, intently and with an ear for nuance. I'm a DJ, thats my job. And with the exception of one or two tracks the album did not stand out to me nor was it anything particularly special. In 3 months I doubt I'll still be interested in it at all.
I still play HOSH, Stimming - Radar because I think it's one of the best songs either of them has ever done, and none of this album was up to par in my opinion. It is repetitive and boring, particularly if you are familiar with Stimming's past works, some of which were much more adventurous and fun, though he has always stuck to a very similar formula and sound set.
Apart from the album, I own what I consider to be stimming's 5 best songs:
Getting Out Of Something
Radar
Kleine Nachtmusik
The Anger
Una Pena
Beyond those 5 spanning a few years, an entire album following the same exact sound set, formula and general ideas, was, indeed, very boring and repetitive.
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And uh, what the does Alice Coltrane have to do with a piece of electronic music by Stimming being dynamic?
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It has to do with the fact that it is millions of times more dynamic than anything Stimming has ever done. Its an example of music that is truly dynamic to me. Regardless, music can be dynamic while still being boring. |
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| Clovis |
| If you want an example of a ing amazing artist album, for comparative purposes, listen to The Mole - As High As The Sky |
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| RebeL9 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Kismet7
Mighty wanker? What are you 10? Your pigeating ass probably skimmed through the album on Juno or Beatport, and came in here ting out of your mouth with your review.
In which alternate reality do you consider that a review of an album? As someone who thinks of themselves as artistic (you mix unicorn trance right?), as an artist do you consider your review sufficient enough for an album that likely took months to make? When you make your mix cd's and get a "meh", do you not question what is behind the meh or if they actually listened to the mix you worked so hard on? And a mix is far more easier to make than album, since pretty much anyone with 1 hand and half a brain can make and program a mix (which i'm thinking many sadly extract their credibility from.)
I guess what i'm saying here, is If you can't give a proper review, why give an opinion or review of an album? Why not just ignore the thread, the music could do without your poor review. Even my mini review is thin for what an album deserves. So based on your review, I wondered if you ahd actually heard the album in the context and manner that the artist would have liked a person to listen to it in, in order for his creation and expression to actually make sense to the world. |
If you only knew how much you sound like any of those unicorn trance kids. The same type of replies "if you don't like Tiestos new album don't write in this thread". Go and suck your moms dick. |
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| Jasperovitsj |
| quote: | Originally posted by Kismet7
I guess what i'm saying here, is If you can't give a proper review, why give an opinion or review of an album? Why not just ignore the thread, the music could do without your poor review. |
Let's extrapolate, shall we. Why comment on a soccer match with "Wow, what an awesome match!", when you can't properly analyze its intricate tactics, strategies and gameplay to the smallest details? No way sir, your sentiment and perception of that event is not wanted, let alone valid! Don't even try to say "Damn, these shoes fit so damn well", when you know jack about the anatomical ergonomical and manufactural reasons why they fit that way. Heck, why bother saying you had bomb ass lasagna? What kind of review is that? That good lasagna - which took a long time creating, preparing and distributing - could do without your poor excuse for a review. Who even says you tasted it the way the cooks wanted you to taste it? :o |
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