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Stimming Reflections Album (pg. 11)
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| enydo |
| quote: | Originally posted by Kismet7
Yah, and this is a forum about music, which results in dialogue about music.
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He didn't listen to it the RIGHT way? That makes no sense at all, how was he supposed to listen to it exactly? |
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| Kismet7 |
| quote: | Originally posted by enydo
He didn't listen to it the RIGHT way? That makes no sense at all, how was he supposed to listen to it exactly? |
You see, as artists, we have a vision for our music. A vision that lets us express ourselves through music. So you want to transfer that expression to other people in its purest form, therefore you want the listener to hear and feel what you are expressing, by deeply listening, to properly make that translation.
Honestly, if you have nothing of substance to add, find another thread to bug someone in. |
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| Kismet7 |
| This thread has been...literally 1 vs 10. :disbelief |
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| wotyzoid |
| quote: | Originally posted by Kismet7
You see, as artists, we have a vision for our music. A vision that lets us express ourselves through music. So you want to transfer that expression to other people in its purest form, therefore you want the listener to hear and feel what you are expressing, by deeply listening, to properly make that translation.
Honestly, if you have nothing of substance to add, find another thread to bug someone in. |
Not that I want to instigate the princess any further, but it's his fault that he wasn't able to grasp stimming's "expression" or "vision"? |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by Kismet7
Cite evidence of what, that your stubborn and ignorant? I'd just have to repost anything you've said in this thread, from your "you need lessons on dynamics" which put you in the odd position of getting the lessons, and subsequently maintaining your ignorance about what dynamics are, to limiting dynamics to classical music, even though I gave you examples of dynamics in a number of genres. |
Evidence that your definition of "dynamic" is the correct one. You've done a very good job of framing it as The Truth without providing a sliver of citation. I'd also like proof that "progression" means what you say in music as well.
| quote: | | Friends and influence? What are you on about, im just sharing ideas here. |
You've consistently made false assumptions about what other people in this thread listen to, assumptions about how they've listened, assumptions about how music and how art should be treated and derogatory generalisations about TA, as well as putting RA on a pedestal. I'm fairly confident that everyone who has posted in this thread thinks you're a bit of an obnoxious wanker at this point, but you seem to be blissfully unaware of how you come across. |
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| Kismet7 |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Evidence that your definition of "dynamic" is the correct one. You've done a very good job of framing it as The Truth without proving a sliver of citation. I'd also like proof that "progression" means what you say in music as well.
You've consistently made false assumptions about what other people in this thread listen to, assumptions about how they've listened, assumptions about how music and how art should be treated and derogatory generalisations about TA, as well as putting RA on a pedestal. I'm fairly confident that everyone who has posted in this thread thinks you're a bit of an obnoxious wanker at this point, but you seem to be blissfully unaware of how you come across. |
I think I got it, you are a masochist, if I kicked you around in this thread non stop, and attached a carrot to your head and asked you to chase it (like I already did), you'd chase it as long as the carrot was still there, which would be forever. But since I do realise you still don't understand dynamics in music, as you've shown many times over in this thread, that I really can't help you understand it, and I will leave it to "time will heal things" LOL. So lets hope for an epiphany, that you can finally understand what dynamics in music is. Other than that, you are hopeless. |
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| Kismet7 |
| quote: | Originally posted by wotyzoid
Not that I want to instigate the princess any further, but it's his fault that he wasn't able to grasp stimming's "expression" or "vision"? |
It is, if hes not listening to the music properly, and giving reviews of albums. Why give a review of something you didn't really see or hear the way it was meant to be seen or heard? Its like me giving a review of a movie after walking out after 10 minutes, would my review be valid?
No.
Anyhow, recession time. |
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| Sykonee |
| quote: | | You see, as an artist, we have a vision for our music. A vision that lets us express ourselves through music. So you want to transfer that expression to other people in its purest form, therefore you want the listener to hear and feel what you are expressing, by deeply listening. |
I'm sure every producer hopes everyone will grab a pair of 580 Sennheiser headphones, spark a spliff, lay back on the couch, and listen to their latest albums with the lights out with no distraction. Hell, I'll admit to doing that on several occasions. But not all music is worth that kind of attentive dedication, especially when you have several other producers capable of similar and even better results.
Stimming does the trick for you, fine. Personally, I'd sooner grab something from Dub Trees, Phutureprimitive, Trentemoller, The Future Sound Of London, Burial, The Orb, Pitch Black[nz], Banco de Gaia, DJ Shadow, Swayzak, Asura, Children Of The Bong, King Tubby, Aphex Twin, Omnimotion, Josh Wink, Boards Of Canada, etc. etc., before I would grab Stimming.
PS: The lead in Jam & Spoon's Stella out-dynamics Isabelle any day. |
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| wotyzoid |
| quote: | Originally posted by Kismet7
It is, if hes not listening to the music properly, and giving reviews of albums. Why give a review of something you didn't really see or hear the way it was meant to be seen or heard? Its like me giving a review of a movie after walking out after 10 minutes, would my review be valid?
No.
Anyhow, recession time. |
Dear god. Who the are you to say how it is supposed to be heard or not? |
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| RebeL9 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Kismet7
LOL...your fine to have your opinion, im just saying you probably didn't actually listen to it the way the artist meant it to be listened to. Did you? I did and I find to be far from a boring album.
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So you listen to it in a different way than the rest of us? That's why you wank over it like a pig? Explain to me why your "way of listening" is superior oh mighty wanker! |
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| paulandrews |
| quote: | Originally posted by Kismet7
Why give a review of something you didn't really see or hear the way it was meant to be seen or heard? Its like me giving a review of a movie after walking out after 10 minutes, would my review be valid?
No. |
That analogy is pretty bad. That would equal to listening only to the first 10 seconds of the track, and that's not what you were talking about previously, is it?
How the can you say there's only one correct intepretation of a piece of music (according to you the artist's intention)? How do you find out? Do you always ask the musicians beforehand? What if I wanted to listen to Beethoven? Should I throw a séance, then?
The whole thought is nonsense anyway, art has always been open to interpretation, and in countless cases it benefited from that. |
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| Jasperovitsj |
And what makes you so 100% sure you have listened to Stimming's album exactly the way he intended or wanted anyone to listen to it?
| quote: | Originally posted by Kismet7
It is, if hes not listening to the music properly, and giving reviews of albums. Why give a review of something you didn't really see or hear the way it was meant to be seen or heard?
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A pretty dangerous road you're taking here, objectifying music (or movies for that matter) to a set of data, separated from emotions to be experienced with a single objective, a priori defined set of well confined conditions. Music experience is at least for a great part subjective per definition. So it's impossible to claim that there's only one (or at most a few) certain and correct way to listen to, process and experience any random piece of music. It's incredibly cocky to reduce music that way, especially since you imply (and don't go tell me you don't) you possess the 'skill' to listen to music exactly the way it should be.
Or is this once again a wrong assumption, probably created by my obviously poor mastering of the english language? :rolleyes: |
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