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Supermarkets 5 cents a bag... Short sightedness at it's best! (pg. 10)
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| Flec |
i work in the front end of a large grocery store and i can tell you there has definitely been a significant reduction in the usage of plastic bags.
Here is what I've noticed,
When Plastic bags were offered for free:
- customers purchasing few items still took a bag
- customers purchasing few items requested multiple bags
- customers demanded their items be "double bagged"
- customers asked for extra bags, (garbage or whatever use)
- often items that too big for bags were still requested to make it fit
- customers sometimes requested boxes as an alternative.
- few individuals brought re-usuable bags
In the past couple years tho the major chains have slowly introduced reusable bags as alternatives and have offered them at relatively cheap prices. Think $1.00 a bag, - an extended 2for1 introductory sale - and a garentee the bag will be replaced if it wears out. The reusable bags are usually a lot bigger and stronger, so if you were spending $200 on groceries that would use 15 plastic bags, it would only require 5-6 reusable ones. So really, what do you have against them?
Apparently enough people were not convinced or motivated quick enough to switch over to reusable bags even with these marketing tactics, i think thats argument enough to say some form of intervention had to take place to speed up the process of removing plastic bags
Now that we have started charging, all those rediculus trends of excessive bag usage have declined. And the quality of the plastic bags that are being used as well as the size have increased as well.
I mean really.... they are only one of many ways you can take your items home, ive seen people package their groceries in reusable bags made of various materials, knapsacks, baby strollers, large plastic containers (like boxes), boxes, take the cart, etc. i think its pretty short sighted to believe using plastic bags in massive quantities is necessary |
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| DigiNut |
| quote: | Originally posted by Skipper
Well then, the price just went up. that happens with stuff sometimes. |
If the price goes up on account of supply and demand, that's one thing; if it goes up because of an arbitrary penalty imposed by the government, that's quite another. I'm surprised that you of all people would treat these two concepts as one and the same.
Yet another example of government interference misrepresented or just misunderstood by the liberal bag-holders.
I think grocery stores should charge for bags. I just don't think that the government should get any of it, not beyond normal sales taxes anyway. |
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| mute79 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
they gave them out free but they were paid for within the cost of the food... now they charge twice.
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How do you know that prices on items haven't been reduced now to reflect this change? I would think that stores would use this opportunity to lower their prices and make them more competetive. |
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| basilisk |
| I knew this was a Jayx1 thread the moment I saw the title. Doesn't matter what civic issue it is--dude is always opposed. |
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by basilisk
I knew this was a Jayx1 thread the moment I saw the title. Doesn't matter what civic issue it is--dude is always opposed. |
I am for lower taxes, easier commutes, freedom of choice and less government interference.
All worthy civic issues ;)
I am opposed to most everything that champagne socialists come up with that is supposed to improve (burdan) our lives. Unfortunately right now it is those people who are in power. |
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by mute79
How do you know that prices on items haven't been reduced now to reflect this change? I would think that stores would use this opportunity to lower their prices and make them more competetive. |
You havnt been to a supermarket lately have u? |
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Flec
i work in the front end of a large grocery store and i can tell you there has definitely been a significant reduction in the usage of plastic bags.
Here is what I've noticed,
When Plastic bags were offered for free:
- customers purchasing few items still took a bag
- customers purchasing few items requested multiple bags
- customers demanded their items be "double bagged"
- customers asked for extra bags, (garbage or whatever use)
- often items that too big for bags were still requested to make it fit
- customers sometimes requested boxes as an alternative.
- few individuals brought re-usuable bags
In the past couple years tho the major chains have slowly introduced reusable bags as alternatives and have offered them at relatively cheap prices. Think $1.00 a bag, - an extended 2for1 introductory sale - and a garentee the bag will be replaced if it wears out. The reusable bags are usually a lot bigger and stronger, so if you were spending $200 on groceries that would use 15 plastic bags, it would only require 5-6 reusable ones. So really, what do you have against them?
Apparently enough people were not convinced or motivated quick enough to switch over to reusable bags even with these marketing tactics, i think thats argument enough to say some form of intervention had to take place to speed up the process of removing plastic bags
Now that we have started charging, all those rediculus trends of excessive bag usage have declined. And the quality of the plastic bags that are being used as well as the size have increased as well.
I mean really.... they are only one of many ways you can take your items home, ive seen people package their groceries in reusable bags made of various materials, knapsacks, baby strollers, large plastic containers (like boxes), boxes, take the cart, etc. i think its pretty short sighted to believe using plastic bags in massive quantities is necessary |
Great, so let the supermarket decide so that the public can reward or punish them for this decision. Government intervention takes away the choice that society should be making for themselves regardless of some CEOs ideology. |
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| mute79 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
You havnt been to a supermarket lately have u? |
Just showing you how absurd your argument is.. |
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| activate |
| I have reusable bags. each one holds as much as 3-4 plastic pags. they also have straps so that i can carry them on my shoulder, which is lot more comfortable then awkwardly carrying handfuls of bags. |
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| daves |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
Great, so let the supermarket decide so that the public can reward or punish them for this decision. Government intervention takes away the choice that society should be making for themselves regardless of some CEOs ideology. |
you cry wolf on so much stupid that one day you will have a really relevant point... and people are gonna look right past it and say "gee, this is the guy who bitches about the 5 cent bags and cannot make a paragraph without using the words "socialist" or "liberal" in it... what's his agenda?"
learn to pick your battles. |
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| infinity HiGH |
| quote: | Originally posted by FunkyCrew
um it's NOT because it's $0.05 now, but it's because they are "covering" it up as a green move :rolleyes: |
If you try hard enough you'll notice that this isn't limited to just plastic bags.
It's only 5c a bag and the cost has potential environmental benefits :rolleyes: Stop crying like this is some "corporate conspiracy" just trying to screw the little man, cause it's so far from it. |
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| FunkyCrew |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
You havnt been to a supermarket lately have u? |
lol nail on the head
food prices have been increasing if anything |
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