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Squeezin the nuts out your mix (pg. 8)
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| Knowland |
| quote: | Originally posted by Beatflux
That's fine and dandy, unless when it gets mastered the track gets mashed up to the ceiling and those peaks disappear.
The only reason I see people bricking their tracks is to sell more copies on beatport, other than that what is the point? Clubs are already loud enough. |
iPod masters. Clubs are a different beast and much preferred :D |
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| EddieZilker |
| quote: | Originally posted by xphonix
Cronodevir, you sound like a fool. sorry. |
That's Crono's troll. You're new here so, I am advising you to ignore his conjecture.
I wish I could say I've missed you, Crono, but I don't and once again I find myself browsing through a thread littered with more of your banal, contextually retarded, argumentum. This thread may have actually been useful but it's quickly becoming a waste of time as it grows more and more shockingly irrelevant. Sorry that you're bored and that you've nothing else to do with your time other than to be disruptive but I'm also sorry that some people still find you plausible enough to merit a reply.
In other news:
http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...7&forumid=74&s=
The thread linked above is my own remix of Cryophonik's Telescope. I went ahead and kept my original, unsuitably mastered and mixed, rough version (Before) along with a version that I re-attenuated the mix and mastered, yesterday. I used a multiband compressor on the master and several of the tracks also have compressors on them.
An important part of the compression process, I believe, is properly set EQ. When certain frequencies are too present in a mix the frequencies you may actually want to trigger a compressor's threshold reflex are going to remain unchecked. Conversely, unshelved tracks may cause the mix to either pump or impede the dynamics of a track you want more dynamic.
I wound up bouncing all 20+ of my tracks to 7 stems, one of which went completely unprocessed, and then ran all of that through mastering to achieve the final result. That was after, however, I had trimmed one of my tracks (The ultra big bass sound) down to a more respectable size. |
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| cronodevir |
Right. And telling people to purposely hard clip every sound isn't stupid.
Eddie, being full of as usual. BtW, in that poorly made track you posted, you didn't clip enough, so your headroom is severely lacking. :D :toothless |
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| EddieZilker |
| quote: | Originally posted by cronodevir
Right. And telling people to purposely hard clip every sound isn't stupid.
Eddie, being full of as usual. BtW, in that poorly made track you posted, you didn't clip enough, so your headroom is severely lacking. :D :toothless |
Hence, I submitted the qualifier, contextually retarded.
And, you're right - I didn't clip at all. :D |
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| mysticalninja |
| i can understand purposly clipping analog, i do it to an old eq with my waldorf pulse for 303 acid sounds.. but digital clipping? |
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| meriter |
| This thread is awesome! Mastering these days is one of those things that seems like a disease. I think it's all just primate status games. It's like whoever makes their mix loudest and sound the tiest has the biggest and that's all that matters. Ever listen to an old classic rock recording on your thousand dollar studio monitors? Ever listen to an old classic rock record on vinyl through your high-end monitors? That's how it's done. Unless you're using something like this I'd stay away from trying to master anything yourself with your software. You need to incorporate hardware compression/limiting. |
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| EddieZilker |
| quote: | Originally posted by meriter
This thread is awesome! Mastering these days is one of those things that seems like a disease. I think it's all just primate status games. It's like whoever makes their mix loudest and sound the tiest has the biggest and that's all that matters. Ever listen to an old classic rock recording on your thousand dollar studio monitors? Ever listen to an old classic rock record on vinyl through your high-end monitors? That's how it's done. Unless you're using something like this I'd stay away from trying to master anything yourself with your software. You need to incorporate hardware compression/limiting. |
Trust me. If I could afford to send stuff off to be professionally mastered, I'd do it. Currently, I have to settle for a complete fool for a Mastering Engineer.
EDIT: But I also stay away from the "Loudness Wars", in that respect. |
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| meriter |
| quote: | Originally posted by EddieZilker
Trust me. If I could afford to send stuff off to be professionally mastered, I'd do it. Currently, I have to settle for a complete fool for a Mastering Engineer.
EDIT: But I also stay away from the "Loudness Wars", in that respect. |
I'm starting to listen to the record through my monitors. Was this made in fruityloops? |
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| cronodevir |
I don't even think anyone here can agree on what mastering is. People just say "add polish"...that means absolutely nothing. There is only so much you can do to a wav file. And 99% of the time its about fixing what was broken. Or, its about making the music conform to some label standard. Such as having a certain RMS or being max loud, or making it bassy. or what ever. Those things are generally considered bad, but people still do them anyways [setting an RMS isn't that bad actually, but it can still be done in the production phase.]
Edit: Lol at above comment. |
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| Sonic_c |
| You know the main thing I didnt like about the brickwall version of my track. Yes it was loud and tight sounding but it also sounded clinical no soul in there all my subtle little things I added while writing didnt seem as nice. The song felt different and that cant be good practice. |
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| meriter |
| quote: | Originally posted by Sonic_c
Yes it was loud and tight sounding but it also sounded clinical no soul in there all my subtle little things I added while writing didnt seem as nice. The song felt different and that cant be good practice. |
Yeah.. that's the disease. That's the product. |
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| EddieZilker |
| quote: | Originally posted by meriter
I'm starting to listen to the record through my monitors. Was this made in fruityloops? |
No. You're a little thorny, aren't you? |
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