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eric prydz mastering techniques? (pg. 5)
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| LoveHate |
| quote: | Originally posted by Blake_Jarrell
kismet, hes all ITB, get over it
as are:
Jerome Isma-Ae
Swedish House Mafia
Dirty South
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what about Blake Jarrell ? :D |
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| ONDRAY |
Back to the OP, Eric Prydz mastering techniques are properly NONE, because the label will be sending his tracks out for mastering and I'm not 100% sure, but most likely it's hired out to a pretty well respected Mastering Studio where they may or may not use analog magic.
Now, if he works all ITB or not.. I don't know. What I do know is that I get tracks to master from all sorts of producers. Some with expensive outboard gear and others all ITB with just FL, and I will say that in the end, it comes down to skills and your ears, NOT the gear... I've heard some horrible mixes coming from API, Manley, SSL gear. The man behind the knobs needs to know how to turn them. If a newbie was to blind test a Behinger Composer and a Manley Vari-Mu, he properly couldn't tell the difference. |
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| vikernes |
| quote: | Originally posted by Blake_Jarrell
kismet, hes all ITB, get over it
as are:
Jerome Isma-Ae
Swedish House Mafia
Dirty South
etc
etc |
I think today pretty much everyone, besides the old school guys that started back in the day didn't (yet) sell their hardware, is ITB.
Another one to add to that list:
http://marcusschossow.com/blog/?p=138
| quote: | | As you can see, i dont use any hardware synths and iv never really needed it aswell... |
As someone already mentioned, and sadly there are still a lot of people blinded by this, is that the difference is talent and experience. You can post a sample from an Arturia vsti on gearslutz and I bet you 9 out of 10 people will say it's hardware. Gone are the days when software was considered (and rightfully so) inferior.
SHM use a lot of the same software we do; NI (massive, fm8), korg legacy,... so does deadmau5. FFS the opening riff to Ghosts is from ing sytrus...
And they make hit records and we don't :)
Having said that. Am I the only one that doesn't like Eric Prydz's mixes? Yes they are wll mixed and mastered, but they feel so "empty" to me. But then again, I'm not a fan of his style either. |
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| MrJiveBoJingles |
| quote: | Originally posted by vikernes
Having said that. Am I the only one that doesn't like Eric Prydz's mixes? Yes they are wll mixed and mastered, but they feel so "empty" to me. But then again, I'm not a fan of his style either. |
They do feel pretty empty and clinical to me, too.
One thing to remember is that it's easier to compress a sparse mix a lot without distorting it as much. If you try to apply today's ultra-loud mastering practices to a really "full" mix with lots of elements, it will sound like crap -- which doesn't stop a lot of people from doing it anyway. I miss the days when producers could still get away with leaving space in their mixes without jackoffs complaining that it sounds "unprofessional" or "unsuitable for a club." Here is PQM - "You Are Sleeping" (Luke Chable Mix):
"OMG! Look at all those peaks! The bass drum is hitting at like -8dBfs! How unprofessional!"
Yet the idiots who complain like that will probably never make a track that kills clubs like PQM and Luke Chable did. |
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| music2dance2 |
| quote: | Originally posted by ONDRAY
Back to the OP, Eric Prydz mastering techniques are properly NONE, because the label will be sending his tracks out for mastering and I'm not 100% sure, but most likely it's hired out to a pretty well respected Mastering Studio where they may or may not use analog magic.
Now, if he works all ITB or not.. I don't know. What I do know is that I get tracks to master from all sorts of producers. Some with expensive outboard gear and others all ITB with just FL, and I will say that in the end, it comes down to skills and your ears, NOT the gear... I've heard some horrible mixes coming from API, Manley, SSL gear. The man behind the knobs needs to know how to turn them. If a newbie was to blind test a Behinger Composer and a Manley Vari-Mu, he properly couldn't tell the difference. |
He spills all about his mastering technique here. Theres more detail on his production technique/gear in the interview. check the link at the bottom
vikernes - Re: Deadmau5 ghost & stuff, agreed. He made that in his hotel room on his laptop. Again proves you just need to know wtf you are doing.
**** The Interview ****
Eric:
I do everything myself. I think that a lot of people tend to think that I have this massive, really expensive studio. And a lot of people think that it's the mastering guy that does it all for me, but when it comes to mixing music in the mastering process, you're really limited because the track is one file. The only thing you can do in the mastering process is raise or lower the volume of certain frequencies, so you're very limited in what you can do. I think the strength in my productions is kind of the separation, and how all of the sounds are mixed together, and that's something that I kind of put a lot of effort into, because I always wanted my music to sound you know, really really good in a club. If you have a really good idea for a track, but it doesn't come across well on a big system, it sort of gets a lost in a way. So I would say 50% of a track is the actual mix of it. You have to make sure that you can hear all of the different channels clearly. I always try to make my tracks sound like this big powerful pack of muscle sort of thing you know, and it's kind of hard to explain how I do it because I use my ears, and I know how I want it to sound. Over the years I sort of learned how to get it to sound like that. Nowadays I don't even need to master my tracks after I'm finished, because I do the mastering, but while I'm doing the mixdown sort of thing. I never actually EQ the track on the master; i do it in the actual track with the elements, because that is how you get a good result really. So no, to answer your question again, I do everything myself. The only mastering that is done on the tracks is for the actual tracks that are gonna' be cut on vinyl, because on vinyl, you cannot have the music sounding as it does digitally. If you want to cut out music on vinyl, you need to cut out certain frequencies. You need to have the bass sound in mono, because if you have it in stereo then the needle is going to jump around a bit. And they do cut out a lot of the high-end as well, everything over 15,000/16,000 Hz, something like that. It's kind of a science in itself to get the level of the vinyl as high as possible. But they don't do any physical mastering of the track. What they try to do is cut out frequencies and press it as loud as possible on vinyl. So that's how it works. All the tracks on beatport and stuff like that is my own mastering really.
http://www.inthemix.com.au/forum/sh...ad.php?t=210693 [/QUOTE]
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| tyron_biggums |
| quote: | Originally posted by Beatflux
Have you written something like Pjanno? |
dont get too far ahead of urself.. pjanoo isnt original work ;) |
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| music2dance2 |
| quote: | Originally posted by tyron_biggums
dont get too far ahead of urself.. pjanoo isnt original work ;) |
I heard that also. Its take from some 70's track? Do you know the name? |
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| RichieV |
| it is a chord progression with no melody. I'm pretty sure he came up with that all by himself. I personally find all his tracks great for a dance floor but there really is nothing there to warrant a second listen in a proper listening environment. There is nothing that makes me rub my head. |
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| music2dance2 |
| quote: | Originally posted by RichieV
it is a chord progression with no melody. I'm pretty sure he came up with that all by himself. I personally find all his tracks great for a dance floor but there really is nothing there to warrant a second listen in a proper listening environment. There is nothing that makes me rub my head. |
My mate told me it was from another track. will try and find out
That said, I can see your point entirely, but he is making music for clubs. So either way if you dont hear it a 2nd, the 1st time round you'll be dancing your socks off! lol |
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| Kthought |
| out of T4L Maximus? I Think? Into that.... very sick video |
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| music2dance2 |
Indeed, no mater what anybody says if it works it works. Daft punk sample songs and make hits. If that producer can see an idea to create something good then who is to argue. |
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