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Eric Prydz Mixing and Mastering (pg. 5)
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| Waza |
| DJ RANN quick question. Ok say you have a sound playing in solo mode that has some phase cancellation, but when you turn solo mode off the track has no phase cancellation. Is this ok or will i have to turn down the stereo field of the sound in solo mode first. |
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| hexadecimal |
| quote: | Originally posted by RichieV
ii feel like that was the case around 2000 but I think everything is sort of out of the hat now. I rarely hear anything that makes me scratch my head which is sort of disappointing because i used to love that feeling of not inspiration not knowing how to do something. |
That's because the being spewed out of the 10,000,000 new labels that popped up over the past 9 years is mostly generic, boring, and completely lacking innovation.
There's still a lot of cool stuff coming out, but it's nothing that you'll hear played by any of the DJ Heros. |
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| isrefel |
| quote: | Originally posted by hexadecimal
That's because the being spewed out of the 10,000,000 new labels that popped up over the past 9 years is mostly generic, boring, and completely lacking innovation.
There's still a lot of cool stuff coming out, but it's nothing that you'll hear played by any of the DJ Heros. |
You gotta write music that doesnt have all these generic tricks...yeah side chaining makes ure beat and bass sound mint but its died a death 5years ago but people still use it....music around 2000 was breathable now everthing is over compressed. |
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| DJ RANN |
| quote: | Originally posted by Waza
DJ RANN quick question. Ok say you have a sound playing in solo mode that has some phase cancellation, but when you turn solo mode off the track has no phase cancellation. Is this ok or will i have to turn down the stereo field of the sound in solo mode first. |
No, if a sound partially disappears, sounds muddy or completely vanishes, then you've got to go back to that sound and work on it so that it is still present in mono.
Most clubs are dual mono (not mono as commonly misnterpreted - there is a big difference but lets not get in to that now), meaning if you have heavy spread effects or bad correlation, especially on low end/sub frequencies, they will not reproduce effectively in club environment or PA system.
The best practise is to constantly check both your sounds and mix in mono. If it sits ok in mono, then try spreading the sounds so they sound good in streo, but the real skill comes making sure they then work again in mono.
This is really a balancing act between getting it to sound fine in mono, yet still getting a nice spread in stereo.
Personally, as an engineer, I prefer to bias slightly more toward to the stereo spread getting priority as I don't make music to be primarily listened to in mono.
Hope this helps:) |
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| sako487 |
| So how can you have it sound the same in mono and stereo? |
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| DJ RANN |
| quote: | Originally posted by sako487
So how can you have it sound the same in mono and stereo? |
The obvious answer to that question is: you make the track mono.
...but I don't think that's what you meant ;)
You'll never get a track to sound the same unless you do that, but what you want is it to sound great in stereo, still good in mono.
Stereo is, for obvious reasons, your preferred target format so mix as that as your goal, you just don't want it sounding bad in mono.
It's not that difficult though - it's just about making sure you don't have holes in your mix because of panning/phase/imaging issues. |
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| sako487 |
| Pretty noob question, but mono is when both channels are merged 100% right? |
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| derail |
| quote: | Originally posted by sako487
Pretty noob question, but mono is when both channels are merged 100% right? |
Most times when people say "listen to your mix in mono", they mean to pan the main/master left and right channels to the centre. There are plugins that do this.
Less often, people mean "turn off one of your speakers and listen to your mix through one speaker only". This is naturally different, since the left and right channels aren't combined (so you can't check phase cancellation), but is useful if you have sounds panned to one side or the other, and want to see what someone standing directly in front of the left or right speaker would be hearing. |
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| Waza |
Cheers Derail for this helped alot.
Yeah i should check my tracks in mono more often.
Derail do you know any articles about this Dual mono thing, i would like to read up on it. :) |
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| sako487 |
| Thanks derail, I checked my song in mono and there was no obviouse phasing, but it lost some width. Can I regain some width in mono or just leave it how it is? And also, what does dual mono mean, I'm guessing its almost like stereo? |
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| MrJiveBoJingles |
| quote: | Originally posted by sako487
Thanks derail, I checked my song in mono and there was no obviouse phasing, but it lost some width. Can I regain some width in mono or just leave it how it is? |
Uhh, of course you "lost width" in mono. Mono means your audio has only one channel. That means no width *at all.* You cannot possibly get any narrower than mono. You cannot "add width" if you have only a single channel of output, LOL. Mono output always has no width, since it has no stereo field. |
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