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Eric Prydz Mixing and Mastering (pg. 7)
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| DJ RANN |
| quote: | Originally posted by Notle
I thought this was thread about eric prydz and hes mixing and mastering? So can i post here without that negative ? This forum just sucks and people like you are the reason i dont write here more often. Thanks for the remind. Have fun with your negativity. |
Negativity? Dude, I help as many people as I possibly can on this forum and have done for very nearly a decade. This thread is EXACTLY about that but his mastering but it certainly doesn't make "his whole sound" as you posted. It's just polish and glue on the near finished article, not what defines someones sound as an artist - Knowing eric prydz mastering chain isn't going to make you a hit record. That is fact, so don't get ty if you don't like the truth.
And anyway, who gives a about specific mastering chains? Just do what works for your sound. As demonstrated in this thread and countless others on the subject, your composition, arrangement and sound selection are 1000 times more inportant than compressor settings in a mastering chain. I gurantee you that if you made a track as simple but as catchy or well written as jaytech, dinka a or prydz, your mastering is not the thing people will remember. |
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| sako487 |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ RANN
your composition, arrangement and sound selection are 1000 times more inportant than compressor settings in a mastering chain. |
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| cryophonik |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ RANN
Negativity? |
I don't see the negativity either, RANN. I don't what's going on around here lately, but it seems that it's damn near impossible to express an opinion, regardless of how well thought-out it is, without someone flying off the handle, resorting to name-calling and personal attacks, etc. Whatever happened to open dialogue and respect for other people's opinions or, in this case, a simple clarification of fact? |
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| Terrence Parker |
A few days ago from Eric's twitter:
| quote: | | people take music far to serious.. its all about having fun and create. |
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| Notle |
| @RANN: Yeah i think it was unnecessary you to comment my post like that. We were not speaking about selling anything, right? I only posted my comment because somebody on this thread thought he isnt using anything on master output. So for me that was negative bull, like 90% in this forum. Im not imbesill, ofcourse his mastering chain isnt going to help me sell millions. But it is helping me develop as a better producer. Im not like you who can figure all the tricks in music by myself. |
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| DJ RANN |
| quote: | Originally posted by Notle
@RANN: Yeah i think it was unnecessary you to comment my post like that. We were not speaking about selling anything, right? I only posted my comment because somebody on this thread thought he isnt using anything on master output. So for me that was negative bull, like 90% in this forum. Im not imbesill, ofcourse his mastering chain isnt going to help me sell millions. But it is helping me develop as a better producer. Im not like you who can figure all the tricks in music by myself. |
Good job on agreeing with yourself. If you read the whole thread you'd know that isn't the case. And again, you said the mastering was "his whole sound", which unlike this forum truly IS bull. Learning mastering will make you better at mastering. Learning someone elses mastering chain will let you copy their mastering chain, not produce like them. In the strictest sense, learning mastering will make you a better mastering engineer, not a better producer (but that's another thread ;) )
If you think 90% of this forum is bull, I have no idea why you would even log on. |
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| Notle |
| quote: | | Learning mastering will make you better at mastering. Learnring someone elses mastering chain will let you compy their mastering chain, not produce like them. In the strictest sense, learning mastering will make you a better mastering engineer, not a better producer |
Mastering is when you master on mixdown. Its is part of producing when you do it yourself like mixing. Mastering is when mastering engineer process you wav file(s). Mastering wav file and mastering while producing is totally different thing.
All i did was post a pic and told that he had stuff on master output and you stick to that "whole sound" part which i accidently wrote. I dont actually think its the only reason for his sound but i dont think it is just eq:ing and panning why his softsynth sound huge over mine softsynth or yours.
Im on this forum because i love producing EDM! I couldnt care less other TA sections. I dont even listen to trance. That 10% which isnt bull here is valuable information. Thats why i check this forum once a day, and its usually just people arguing over nonsense like now. |
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| DJ RANN |
Not arguing, you posting something that didn't make sense to me and probably most other people on here.
And please, next time spare me the explanation of what and engineer is - I'm a mix assistant as my day(and night) job. Please read the thread - you'll see I know the difference between mastering and producing.
We master out tracks becuase generally we don't pay for it but strictly speaking (that's exactly why I used that precise terminology) mastering has nothing to do with producing as such.
By the way, Eric reads these threads and is probably having a good giggle - I actually know what he said about this thread the first time it came up and it's just great sound selection, great arrangement and great mixing.
Again, the mastering is polish and glue and least important factor in his sound IMO. |
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| Notle |
| Yeah im having a good giggle myself here often, maybe i should just keep staying silent like Eric does. |
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| Fledz |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ RANN
I don't know what you mean about people talking down about Eric?
He himself admits the elements of his tracks are simple, each one by themselves, but the magic is how they combine and compliment each other. It's simple things done well.
@notle - his master chain plug in list aint going to make you sell records like him, and even if you did know them, what use would that be to your specific sound. Anyway, two of them are probably analysers and one of them is probably a mono plug. |
This thread and others like it are perfect examples.
Look at the comments that you guys don't see what's so special about his music, you're not hearing anything brilliant in the mixdowns etc etc. That's talking his ability down.
You said it yourself, his tracks are "simple" but there's a magic there which others are unable to replicate. We put FAR TOO MUCH FOCUS ON TECHNICAL ABILITY in modern EDM, so much so that every single new and intermediate producer can't even experiment anymore because the first comment they will get on a forum is "Oh your kick isn't punchy enough", "Your low end is muddy", "You should tighten up your highs", etc.
It's like everybody wants to be a professional grade audio engineer yet no one wants to focus on composition. The issue is that most producers these days think they are the same thing. They aren't!
There are plenty of technically brilliant engineers out there who you would get to master and mixdown every track if you could, though I'm sure quite a large portion of them are rubbish when it comes to composition, otherwise they too would be releasing bomb after bomb.
What the hell was my point again? I can't remember :stongue: |
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| Nightshift |
| quote: | Originally posted by sako487
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| user19503 |
| who the hell need mastering anyway now that vinyl is dead? |
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