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| mfitterer1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by RichieV
interesting. What don't you like about it ? I think alot of it has to do with arrangement. He used to be a hard trance producer , correction he pretty much invented the genre , so his production style tends to be a little esoteric in that it doesn't really fit in any genre. He takes elements from house trance hardstyle and I find his sound extremely classic and timeless. I really do enjoy how each of his tracks sound different but you definitely know it is his track. |
There's a lot not to like. A lot of it is for reasons you listed. There is too much hardstyle and hard trance in his tracks to be trance. I agree he used to be more of a hard trance producer and I think it would suit him if he stopped trying to crossover into trance. I think the arrangement in the track you listed is the only thing that makes it listenable. There is literally no drive in that track (I'm guessing it's somewhere around 135-137 and it sounds like 132)
It just seems like a blend of a bunch of things that don't mix well. Too much stop n go for a euphoric/uplifting track. This track isn't too bad but I have seen some of his tracks on beatport going through the charts that are just smashed to all hell. |
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| DJ RANN |
just refound this thread after a while and just wanted to to add I couldn't agree more with the Richie's opening statement.
so many tracks just sound like a melodic breakdown with two completely unconnected parts at the beginning and end.
Even some of my preferred artists are doing it now. Is the pressure to release multiple tracks a month just too great?
What happened to thematic progression, and motif development - you know, the that makes music interesting? |
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| EddieZilker |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ RANN
What happened to thematic progression, and motif development - you know, the that makes music interesting? |
I try to do it, and I've heard it in a couple of recent (not mine) Music Producer's Promotion forum offerings. |
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| david.michael |
| I think all that random ADHD stop-go-stop-go bull in that Scot Project tune is way more energy-killing than any "blue-balls drop" I've ever heard. Just my opinion. |
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| owien |
dj scott project use's the same format as describe above in all of his tracks.
good tune thoe and makes good use of the op point.
on the flip side if tracks like the op pointed out are so stale now why has it not been replaced with something new and fresh yet? |
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| Kthought |
| after blue balls drops, we should over-use sidechain compression to produce a rythmic pumping sound on every instrument. No? |
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| Beatflux |
| quote: | Originally posted by Kthought
after blue balls drops, we should over-use sidechain compression to produce a rythmic pumping sound on every instrument. No? |
You don't get it. The SC Comp IS the rhythm. |
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| MrJiveBoJingles |
| quote: | Originally posted by Beatflux
The SC Comp IS the rhythm. |
Oompa-oompa-oompa.
Polka for kids on stimulants. |
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| music2dance2 |
I have noticed this and totally understand it. In the past I made tracks that would suit what DJ Rann and the OP said, but as DJAthonyRoss said, in clubs it just works, and I to have made tracks just like this with a drop after the break.
Although you expect it not to drop so suddenly after the break to such a sudden low, mainly in the tech house/ house side of things it works and sounds great.
I can understand how this can get boring with hearing many tracks like this but its seems like there was a time when the huge epic breakdowns in tracks took a bashing for being over done. Something new will take its place eventually no doubt as the overdone technique or sound.
I can see how it would seem lazy but it does work its not excatly laziness on the producers side as they are probably more than capable of producing something that did the exact opposite. In house, tech house and techno clubs clubbers enjoy this sort of thing |
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| Richard Butler |
| quote: | Originally posted by music2dance2
I have noticed this and totally understand it. In the past I made tracks that would suit what DJ Rann and the OP said, but as DJAthonyRoss said, in clubs it just works, and I to have made tracks just like this with a drop after the break.
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I agree. It's about contrast, light n shade. After an 'epic' build up laden with sonic texture, the contrast to a drop of just bass and kick can work nicely, for me anyhow.
To just carry the main melody and pads thru can be dull for me on a lot of tracks - sugar followed by, well, more sugar. |
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| -FSP- |
That Scott Project song is sick man.
and lol at "blue ballz" build ups. |
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| Mad for Brad |
| What is interesting about that track is it does build and then drops but still keeps elements from the main build which makes it more cohesive. It sounds more complete and less like the A B A form of too many songs lately. |
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