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Dont just stand there ... help the guy, he's getting mugged!
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| Magnetonium |
Just curious ... how many of you guys/ladies witness mugging or some sort of an attack or assault, in places such as public transit or where there are lots of people? What is the appropriate method of response, depending on a situation? What are your stories and experiences? I often think of these potential situations, although I've not been mugged, though I've been robbed.
It was sad and shocking to read this - people really dont care that much to help an old man?
Too much criticism of TTC, and not enough of criticizing the tards who commit these crimes, or those who abuse the public transit, or as in the other thread - stinky disgusting people.
http://www.thespec.com/News/article/758815
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No help for man, 79, mugged on Toronto subway train
April 26, 2010
Canadian Press
TORONTO - An elderly man who cried out for help as he was being mugged on a Toronto subway train received no assistance from other commuters, police said Monday.
It was not immediately clear how many people were on the train or why they ignored the plight of the 79-year-old victim.
"It is disappointing," said Brad Ross, a spokesman for the Toronto Transit Commission.
"People may feel intimidated about getting involved."
Police said the incident began when a person seated next to the victim asked him for change. The elderly man said he didn't have any and the person asked a second time.
A second person then asked him for money.
The victim tried to activate the passenger-assistance alarm - a yellow strip above the seats - but could not reach it, police said, and a fight ensued.
The attackers fled with his wallet when the train pulled into an east-end station and the victim gave chase, police said.
"He's apparently in really good shape," said police spokesman Const. Tony Vella.
"He chased after them. He tried his best to apprehend them."
The name of the victim was not released. The suspects are believed to be in their 20s.
News of the Toronto incident came amid reports that a homeless man who was stabbed when he rushed to assist a woman being attacked on a New York City street died on the sidewalk as pedestrians strolled by.
A surveillance video obtained by The New York Post shows Hugo Alfredo Tale-Yaxe lying face down for more than an hour. Several people turned their heads, and a few gawked before moving on.
Police were investigating.
Ross said other people on the Toronto subway car may have been concerned that pressing the alarm would have drawn attention to themselves but stressed the alarm on subway cars is silent.
Pressing the strip alerts only the guard and driver, who then notify transit control and security officials before the train pulls into a station, he said.
"We do encourage customers, if they see another customer or passenger in distress - whether it's a medical incident or a criminal occurrence - to press the yellow strip," Ross said.
He said he did not know why the victim was unable to reach the alarm himself.
Police later found the wallet on the street near the Chester subway station. For investigative purposes, they would not say whether its contents were missing.
Transit officials said snatch-and-grabs of iPods or cellphones and similar items are fairly common.
However, a robbery of an elderly passenger is "rare," Ross said.
Police were using security-cameras located throughout the system to try to identify the two thugs.
They are asking anyone who may have information on the incident to contact them.
As a safety tip, Vella urged riders to "be aware of their surroundings" and to know where the alarm is located. |
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| *~LiSa-LoO~* |
I saw a guy who looked like he was getting beat up in Dundas Square once. I stayed off to the side, but stopped and watched what was going on to see if it was actually a guy getting beat up before I called the cops. It turned out to be two undercover security guards from a store who were after someone who had shoplifted.
As a woman, and a small one at that. That is ordinarily what I would do. I likely wouldn't want to get involved for fear of getting hurt myself, but I wouldn't just ignore it. I'd watch and try to quickly assess the situation and see if I should call the cops. Depending on the situation I would probably tell them to stop or to leave the old man alone, unless they had a gun or knife or something b/c they would probably go after me. :nervous:
I feel like I would be willing to do more if there were other people to help me though. I mean, if someone was being mugged and there were others trying to help the man I think I would help too. But if I witnessed a mugging and tried to stop the mugger myself, I really think that I would probably get mugged too in the process. |
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| Jayx1 |
| i love my car hehehehehe |
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| Nrg2Nfinit |
my car ran out of batteries at the esso gas station. I asked for a boost start and no one would help. Not even the station attendant. ing jerks. Good think i have CAA gold :).
sometimes people are pricks. I see someoens car stalled, i offer to give them a boost.
anyways, not really on topic. I would at least chase the guy and follow him or yell that hes a robber, call the police. |
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| FunkyCrew |
| quote: | Originally posted by *~LiSa-LoO~*
I feel like I would be willing to do more if there were other people to help me though. I mean, if someone was being mugged and there were others trying to help the man I think I would help too. But if I witnessed a mugging and tried to stop the mugger myself, I really think that I would probably get mugged too in the process. |
^ this |
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| jester |
Yah I heard about the NY thing. People walked by a dying homeless person that was veteran and he was stabbed. Now thats just wrong. I hope the catch all the people that walked by him (thank you security camera) and toss all those ing people in prison.
As per your question, I have yet to see any sort of assault. I might have witness one between two homeless people, but I am not sure. |
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| Stilez |
It would be wise not only for petite or women who are alone, or the elderly, but anyone for that matter, to use common sense before considering to apprehend or physically get involved in such a situation. It's usually pretty safe to just scream out 'HEY!' to let the thieves know that others are watching and bring it to their attention, or press/pull the emergency alarm if possible.
Someone should've pressed the yellow emergency strip in this situation. That's what it's there for. |
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| DeleteFromUsers |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
i love my car hehehehehe |
Thanks for your valuable input. |
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| love_child |
| It depends on the situation. I would definitely help a woman or elderly man if they needed assistance but at the same time I would still be worried about getting stabbed/shot myself. Like I said it would depend on the situation. |
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| PivotTechno |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
i love my car hehehehehe |
As previously mentioned, all about you. |
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| Jayx1 |
| im just stating my case! Its still the best mode of transportation no matter how you spin it! |
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