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Buying digital releases in wav or 320bit mp3 format? (pg. 6)
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| Halcyon+On+On |
| quote: | Originally posted by Fledz
There's your problem right there, "technical" quality. These discussions are never about technical, but about "practical" quality. Anyone with half a brain cell is aware that Wav is lossless and technically a better audio file but it doesn't warrant the need to go out and buy Wavs to play out when a 320mp3 is sufficient. The advantage of Wav is not and will not ever be significant in a club environment that isn't full of audiophiles, playing tracks at low volumes and chin stroking while commenting to each other how great the club system is for their entire group of 4 people. |
Ew, let's get out of here, guys - they're only playing in 320! |
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| Chimney |
«» Junkie XL & Sasha - Breezer «» 00:04/10:28 «» 2877kbps|96KHz|215 MB ««
:o
Vinyl rip, was curious if I could hear the difference. |
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| Rodri Santos |
| The people that should buy Wav and play on a cd are the top dj's, i'm sure some of them do it but specially on a big room club where 60% of what you hear is bass when should only be 30% i think that "extra frequencies" are insignificant |
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| Mr.Mystery |
| quote: | Originally posted by Rodri Santos
The people that should buy Wav and play on a cd are the top dj's, i'm sure some of them do it but specially on a big room club where 60% of what you hear is bass when should only be 30% i think that "extra frequencies" are insignificant |
Have you ever posted anything that wasn't complete bollocks? |
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| Fledz |
| quote: | Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
Ew, let's get out of here, guys - they're only playing in 320! |
The sad thing is I've seen people actually make that argument! :stongue:
That's like if I was playing a set in the middle of the night and 3 hours in I transitioned from a Wav to a 320mp3, then someone was disgusted by the drop in audio quality and stormed out.
I mean seriously, people shouldn't be that dense. |
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| dj christian |
| quote: | Originally posted by Fledz
Have you ever been in a club where the music is practically loud enough to blow your head off? How was your hearing 10 min in? Not too great I imagine, definitely not good enough to hear the difference. |
In a club a 320 bitrate mp3 vs a wav makes it even more apparent. The louder and better equipment you have the more less favorable the mp3 gets.
Spinning a 320 bitrate mp3 is perfectly fine for home listening or spinning in a home for elderly people and the exception would be if you had high quality speakers and soundcard connected to the computer then it won't do the equipment any justice.
| quote: | Originally posted by Chimney
Unless you got _AT LEAST_ a Juli@ sound-card and some decent B&W speakers, you won't hear jack- difference between 320 and FLAC.
I'm running with a pair on HD 25's and Pioneers HDJ-1000 and can honestly say I hear the difference only on known material.
But c'mon, at least a decently encoded 320 none of the one-click solutions that look like 320 kbps and have the quality of a 128 VBR. |
Good said!
even though the Pioneers HDJ-1000 headcans sux, in my opinion ;) |
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| stealthman |
| quote: | Originally posted by dj christian
In a club a 320 bitrate mp3 vs a wav makes it even more apparent. The louder and better equipment you have the more less favorable the mp3 gets.
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| A.B |
It was the same with vinyl....
You could get a track with the original version that was a full 'a side' on promo copy and would sound lush!
When it was released commercially, there would sometimes be 2 tracks on either side and the original would sound because it was compressed.
Positiva where notorious for this.
I used to wonder about the WAV v 320kbs debate for a long time. I guess what it boils down to is using what ever you can afford and forgetting about it.
Play music. Watch your Eq's and levels. Enjoy. I'm sure no one else will notice. If they did, I wouldn't care. |
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| Glaniskanis |
| quote: | Originally posted by dj christian
In a club a 320 bitrate mp3 vs a wav makes it even more apparent. The louder and better equipment you have the more less favorable the mp3 gets.
Spinning a 320 bitrate mp3 is perfectly fine for home listening or spinning in a home for elderly people and the exception would be if you had high quality speakers and soundcard connected to the computer then it won't do the equipment any justice. |
Sorry but this is completely bullocks :)
There are way too much other factors in a club, that disrupt the soundwave to actually make an identification between 320 and WAV. And then I'm not even saying that you probably can't identify it anyway, which is most likely (99,9%) the case for a few reasons.
1. Your ears can't hear the difference
2. Listener's fatigue (your ears adjust)
3. The clubs sound system can't make a difference
Do a simple quality test with yourself and you will know, but you will probably be surprised that you can't hear the difference between VBR and 320 (most people can't) let alone 320 and WAV :) |
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| Rodri Santos |
| quote: | Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
Have you ever posted anything that wasn't complete bollocks? |
Have you ever tested to think a bit before writing?
The sound in a club is powerful but by no means it's better than the one you can have with a good headphones on your head.
There is a lot of noise and reverb on a club so both mp3 and wav will have noise and then the quality won't be perfect, if you play 128kbps tracks you're adding extra noise and the listener perceives extra noise but he surely won't think "he has mixed a 128k mp3" , if you play the same track at Wav and later at 128 mp3 you see a clear difference on headphones not live.
I only know one good sound setup on my area, on most places the bass is too high and the kicks sound overcompressed. |
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| Chimney |
| quote: | Originally posted by Glaniskanis
Sorry but this is completely bullocks :)
There are way too much other factors in a club, that disrupt the soundwave to actually make an identification between 320 and WAV. And then I'm not even saying that you probably can't identify it anyway, which is most likely (99,9%) the case for a few reasons.
1. Your ears can't hear the difference
2. Listener's fatigue (your ears adjust)
3. The clubs sound system can't make a difference
Do a simple quality test with yourself and you will know, but you will probably be surprised that you can't hear the difference between VBR and 320 (most people can't) let alone 320 and WAV :) |
Big G has it.
Most people don't even know the difference between a .wav and an .mp3 and quite frankly clubbers don't care. It's all about having a good time and when they refer to a "good" sound system I doubt they refer to proper audio-clear one.
Even with good equipment it's hard to hear the difference. I bet that if I'd set up a blind-test in here, very few would notice a difference. I do believe that most people can't even hear that high. |
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