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| cronodevir |
| everyone is n00bz lolz becuz they don't undErsTandZ teh vStiZ |
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| Stephen Wiley |
| quote: | Originally posted by Mad for Brad
I've already mentioned here many times that I have asperger's. You aren't clever. Luckily, things are relative and despite what you might call a disability, I've faired better than most people. My IQ is off the charts, I have rather abnormal musical abilities usually only encountered with people that have this disorder and although they say linguistics suffer significantly, I think my communication serves me just fine. I suppose the only real downside which I have learned to deal with in public is having to pretend and feign an emotional connection with people I couldn't care whether they woke up with rectal cancer the next morning. So all in all, I'm rather content with the package. I mean I'm no Brad Pitt with his bulging biceps and mended by god himself broad shoulders.
Everyone should see a shrink. I would say most people have so many issues they aren't even aware of. I actually don't see a shrink but rather a psychiatrist as the ratio of quack psychologists ain't pretty. I wouldn't trust my health to someone that only requires a bachelor's degree. |
my gf has asperger's.....interesting relationship thus far, but i don't consider it a disability at all and think it is one of the reasons I love her.
And I have peoples lives every day in my hands with 'only' a Bachelor's of Science in Nursing. :tongue2 |
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| EddieZilker |
| quote: | Originally posted by Stephen Wiley
my gf has asperger's.....interesting relationship thus far, but i don't consider it a disability at all and think it is one of the reasons I love her.
And I have peoples lives every day in my hands with 'only' a Bachelor's of Science in Nursing. :tongue2 |
& I'd come to you for psychological help before DJRobbieRox.
;) :toothless |
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| Mad for Brad |
| quote: | Originally posted by Stephen Wiley
my gf has asperger's.....interesting relationship thus far, but i don't consider it a disability at all and think it is one of the reasons I love her.
And I have peoples lives every day in my hands with 'only' a Bachelor's of Science in Nursing. :tongue2 |
under the watchful eye of someone that fortunately did take a little more schooling. There is one thing, preparing an IV drip and then there is someone messing with your head trying to fix things. A psychologist can do alot of damage and the ways to make sure psychologists aren't quacks just aren't as thorough as nurses. A bad nurse would probably get discovered quite easily. The level of schooling wasn't the point. It was more a reference to Robby and his career choice. I've probably read more psychology books as a hobby than that kid did for his degree. |
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| kitphillips |
I wouldn't assume that schooling is the ultimate measure of ability when it comes to mental health.
I've heard of some psychiatrists (8 years Schooling I think?) who've done some incredibly stupid things that a psychologist with less training wouldn't have. |
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| Mad for Brad |
| psychiatrist would be the same as any doctor + the years spent specializing. There are bad doctors but the margin is much lower and the standards are much higher than with psychologists. Psychologists I suppose just waste your money and give you awful advice where as a psychiatrist is dealing with much more severe cases and when you do get a bad one, they can cause more harm. Psychologists can't prescribe medication so of course there are things they would do that a psychologist could not. |
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| kitphillips |
pfft dude. They don't spend that many years specialising, so what you're dealing with is a doctor who's spent a couple of years stuyding the brain. And it is a focus on the brain, not the mind, which is pretty problematic in a lot of cases. They often see clients as a collection of diagnosese more than a full person, and treat the illness rather than the individual.
Psychologists are scientists whose focus is the brain, they aren't doctors, they can't tell you how to fix your leg. But they didn't waste 5 years of their education setting legs. They can tell you how it should be working, as opposed to just seeing you as a bunch of diagnosese, they can deal with you on the level of a functional person, whose functioning might be somewhat impaired for whatever reason. Also, they don't just reach for the drugs at the first opportunity, which is always a good thing. Theres really no reason psychologists shouldn't be able to do a bit of extra training and become psychiatrists, because they're coming off a higher base of knowledge about the mind generally, and most of them have significant training in psychopharmacology already. its just that psychiatrists want to keep the drug prescribing to themselves for the sake of money and prestige, and psychologists don't care that much because we don't really like the idea of just handing out the pills willy nilly. Most psychologists don't want to be more like psychiatrists.
Of course, the entry requirements to get into psychology are lower, they can't prescribe drugs, and theres more of them, so more bad ones crop up. So everyone thinks that psychiatrists are better. But I wouldn't assume that psychiatrists are neccesarily better just because they can prescribe drugs. I've seen some of them get it catastrophically wrong, with potentially life threatening results.
Thats based off my knowledge and experience anyway, could be completely off the mark. I haven't even finished either of my puny bachelors yet. |
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| Aesthetic |
mad4brad - your condition isn't an excuse for you being a complete and utter arsehole to people. You have a superiority complex. You don't get sympathy from me anyway, everyone has their own issues. This forum would be best if you just ed off. We can learn theory anywhere, I don't need someone who thinks he's the second coming of Jesus ramming his superiority up people's arses everytime he's a bit helpful.
EddieZPhelcher - don't you even dare ing reply to this post. |
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| Storyteller |
| quote: | Originally posted by kitphillips
pfft dude. They don't spend that many years specialising, so what you're dealing with is a doctor who's spent a couple of years stuyding the brain. And it is a focus on the brain, not the mind, which is pretty problematic in a lot of cases. They often see clients as a collection of diagnosese more than a full person, and treat the illness rather than the individual. |
In Holland it's way easier. A Psychiatrist has studied both psychology (bachelor or master) and medicine (master, to become a docter). So essentially he's both a doctor and a psychologist combined. :) Nice offtopic by the way. |
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| kitphillips |
Ah ok... Over here psychiatry is treated as any other specialty of medicine, so that a psychiatrist has 5 years medical training, then gets some medical experience, then goes through 6 years of training to be a psychiatrist. by the end of that they're going to be at least 33 or so usually. Also, half of their training will have been irrelevant to their final profession, since the five years they spent as a doctor won't have taught them much about the mind.
Psychologists take 4 years of training, then 2 years of supervision and then they're qualified I think. There is no way that you can go from being a psychologist to a psychiatrist in australia AFAIK, they're seperate disciplines.
Its a pretty bad system because there's very little support for students in australia, so committing to 11 years of study is only possible for people who's families will support them and are rich. Which means that all psychiatrists are older than 33 and come from wealthy backgrounds. Its a big issue when you consider that recent studies have shown that people respond best to therapy when the therapist is of a similar age and background to them. Its very hard to get a helpful sort of relationship going betweeen a 33 year old psychiatrist and a teenaged client for example, because both feel threatened.
Yet another way in which australia is ed :haha: |
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| LoveHate |
| im a bit shocked at how side tracked this thread has become. :wtf: |
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| Zombie0729 |
| quote: | Originally posted by LoveHate
im a bit shocked at how side tracked this thread has become. :wtf: |
from most complicated synths to most complicated TA's... |
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