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Israel’s Greatest Loss: Its Moral Imagination (pg. 4)
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rabbitjoker
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Originally posted by MarkT
a poorly written piece that lacks sufficient supporting evidence, employs intentionally inflammatory language/references, makes significant and sweeping assumptions/generalizations


aka "bait".
gummybear
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Originally posted by rabbitjoker
I wish both you the best in your "mutual informing" sessions via PM.


is that supposed to be somehow insulting?

btw, i have a little too much "adult" stuff going in my life to partake in juvenile back and forth on PM...
Abercrombie
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Originally posted by jad
Abercrombie.. I wouldn't mind reading your written opinion on this matter.


You obviously have not learned anything from the other threads on this topic that never gets anywhere except everybody ting on each other. Congratulations on your successful endeavour.
VERTiG0
Talking about Israel and Palestine on TA should be bannable because nothing ever good comes of it, much like my posting
DigiNut
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Originally posted by gummybear
btw, i have a little too much "adult" stuff going in my life to partake in juvenile back and forth on PM...

Of course. There's only enough time to partake in juvenile public posts.
Capo di tutti
I'll be POW for Isreali woman army anyday....Love to raid their Gaza Strips...



jad
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Originally posted by Abercrombie
You obviously have not learned anything from the other threads on this topic that never gets anywhere except everybody ting on each other. Congratulations on your successful endeavour.


Buddy. Nobody's ting on anybody. Take it easy.. don't over-dramatize. People call it 'bait' before even trying to debate their point in a rational manner (without pictures). If you don't enjoy this thread, by all means don't read through it.
Capo di tutti
quote:
Originally posted by jad
Buddy. Nobody's ting on anybody. Take it easy.. don't over-dramatize. People call it 'bait' before even trying to debate their point in a rational manner (without pictures). If you don't enjoy this thread, by all means don't read through it.


3 words...


WAG THE DOG
jad
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Originally posted by Capo di tutti
3 words...


WAG THE DOG


Nice one
Abercrombie
quote:
Originally posted by jad
Buddy. Nobody's ting on anybody. Take it easy.. don't over-dramatize. People call it 'bait' before even trying to debate their point in a rational manner (without pictures). If you don't enjoy this thread, by all means don't read through it.


You clearly haven't learned a thing. You're making a fine example of yourself.

jad
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Originally posted by Abercrombie
You clearly haven't learned a thing. You're making a fine example of yourself.


Ok. What do you want me to do? You're not very clear here. What's wrong with a little debating.. if you don't like it don;t open the thread. If you're finding it hard to explain yourself.. go ahead and use a picture.
jad
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Originally posted by MarkT
I had a rather long reply that I'll send to if you're *really* interested...but it's pointless to post it here.

the short version is that it's "bait" because those who agree with the position presented will be warmly received, while those who disagree will be shot down (not necessarily by you...but by others, for sure). it has been repeatedly demonstrated to be the case on TA that few here (on either side) are truly interested in (or capable of) logically debating the Palestinian-Israeli issues for various reasons.

if the intention was to post an interesting viewpoint, that's fine...but by the mere suggestion that you are "informing", the implication (IMHO) is that the position presented is a "correct" one and that remains very much unproven.

as for the article, it's an interesting read...but IMHO is a poorly written piece that lacks sufficient supporting evidence, employs intentionally inflammatory language/references, makes significant and sweeping assumptions/generalizations which all ultimately serve only to make it easier to dismiss the underlying argument being put forth.

(which appears to be that a people who were oppressed ought to be more cognizant of becoming oppressive, but instead parallel their previous oppressors in some ways as similarities are manifesting in their own mindset...something to that effect).


Thanks for explaining what certain TAs refer to as 'bait'. Also, thanks for being more mature and insightful about this. They're more than free to explain they're views. It's understandable that some might feel intimidated by the fact that other TAs won't welcome their views warmly.. especially when some views are displayed as pictures, one-word responses, or plain hogwash. Also, certain TAs have a history of pushing forth extremely biased (brain-washed imho) arguments on this matter. Maybe if certain people were to conduct themselves in a more respectable manner, they'd allow for a good public discussion to take place. Or maybe the fact that they refer to this thread as 'bait' right off the bat shows that they don't have much to say in the first place. Who knows? I really don't mind if they're a little bit more vocal about their views.. they can contribute.. rather than dismissing this thread as 'bait' or a 'ting playground' before stating their views on the situation.

In terms of the thread's purpose.. it is not myself doing the informing. I'm simply posting up articles for others to read critically and develop a stronger understanding of the situation. Others are welcome to do the same. I'm not claiming to be 'correct'.. so please do tell what I tried to prove (what's currently 'unproven') with the articles in the first place? If anyone can post up something that would teach me something new, even if it goes against my views.. by all means do so. This has happened a few of times throughout this thread.

I'm going to head out for a bite right now.. I'll get back to your response on the article very soon. Please feel free to send me the longer version of your reply.
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