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TALK ABOUT EDC'S CRUSH/RIOT HERE (pg. 13)
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| chlola |
| quote: | Originally posted by Clovis
Thats what happens when you have a massive party for a bunch dumb kids on drugs. |
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| msilin |
I already wrote my opinion on my site (link below) but just to chime in -
Definitely need a higher age restriction and DEFINITELY need an ID check. If these things are done, the older crowd will come. If it's marketed as more of a music-focused thing, not a rave, it will happen. I think the ball got rolling this year by not having vendors - there were wayyyy less glowsticks and pacifiers and all that bs and it made it that much better.
Miami, England, europe in general are all able to have big events that aren't chock full of kids. I think LA can do it too.
And as far as needing a bigger venue b/c of capacity, that's bs. Just sell less tickets and allow for a couple hundred fence jumpers, cuz they always come. I really like having EDC at the coliseum and don't think we need to move it to the desert in order to accommodate another 50k teenagers.
I believe that Insomniac and GV have good reason to understate their official attendance to please the fire marshall, police, etc. There is a good chance that they sell more tickets than they claim to cuz... why not? Well now we know why not.
Let's raise the bar around here. Clearly teens can't handle these events, so the logical move seems to be... don't let them come. |
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| alan |
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/music_b ... nival.html
County officials establish rave task force in wake of Electric Daisy Carnival
July 6, 2010 | 8:24 pm
The Los Angeles County Board of Supervisors voted Tuesday to establish a task force to examine and "enhance rave safety" after last month's Electric Daisy Carnival led to more than 100 hospitalizations. A 15-year-old girl died last week of a suspected drug overdose after attending the two-day dance event at the L.A. Memorial Coliseum and adjoining Exposition Park, which drew between 80,000 and 100,000 people per day.
The motion to establish the task force follows a call last week by Supervisor Zev Yaroslavsky to establish a rave moratorium. Coliseum officials announced last week a temporary ban on new contracts with rave operators as they consider whether to allow another such event.
"While the Coliseum Commission has taken steps to temporarily stop these events from being held on its property, the county must work with other key community stakeholders to look at the larger public health risks posts by raves and other similar events," the motion reads.
The motion defines a rave as "musical events" that "tend to be held over ... long periods of time -- sometimes days -- in large venues on both public and private property." Among the issues the task force seeks to investigate are the location, hours and size in "which these events can legally be held," as well as education efforts to "raise awareness about the potential dangers of rave parties."
The task force is to be made up of city, police and hospital representatives. A spokesman for Yaroslavsky's office noted that the task force will include representatives from the music and promotion industry. The goal of the task force, reads the motion, is to "develop countywide recommendations to enhance rave safety by mandating that rave promoters and sponsors incorporate public health recommendations into their event planning, for example by requiring the use of private emergency medical staff."
Electric Daisy was the first of what were to have been multiple electronica-focused events planned in L.A. over the coming weeks, including July 17's Hard L.A. at the Los Angeles State Historic Park, a 36-acre plot just east of Chinatown. This summer's other big electronica event, the Love Festival, is scheduled to take place over the Los Angeles Sports Arena, next to the Coliseum, on Aug. 21. It was unclear how the call for a moratorium might affect that event, although a formal decision could be made as early as July 16, when the Coliseum Commission is slated to meet.
Approximately 120 people were transported to local hospitals during the two-day Electric Daisy Carnival. Los Angeles police made 118 arrests, mostly for drug possession. at the event, which is now in its 14th year, and more the 200 were reported injured by Los Angeles Fire Department officials.
Insomniac, which organized Electric Daisy, issued a statement attributed to Simon Rust Lamb: "We hope that the task force, with input from a broad range of the community and stakeholders, including representatives from the musical events industry will create responsible and reasonable recommendations which can be implemented for all musical events in the county."
This is far from the first time raves -- or large, dance-focused music events -- have had their safety questioned. A 2000 story in The Times noted that the very mention of the word "rave" conjured "images of mysterious, illegal warehouse parties where dancers groove on machine-like music and synthetic drugs such as Ecstasy."
Gary Richards, a veteran dance music promoter who's hosting Hard L.A., said in interview last week, and published in Saturday's Calendar, that he is working with the LAPD to make sure his event goes off without problems. But Richards also insists that his event shouldn't be called a rave.
"I do not want to be a rave. I do not want kids in there eating pacifiers," he said, referring to some ravers' practice of holding pacifiers in their mouths to keep from grinding their teeth, which is a sometimes involuntary side effect of Ecstasy use.
"I'm trying to get to music fans who love this music. I've been involved with electronic music for 20 years," Richards continued, "and I've seen this cycle happen three times. It gets popular, and then something happens and then it goes away. My goal is to do these events with quality artists and make them safe and secure."
In an interview last week, Los Angeles-based electronic experimenter Flying Lotus (real name: Steven Ellison), an Electric Daisy veteran, was asked by about the county's move to investigate and possibly limit large-scale dance events.
"If they shut them down, we’ll find a way," Ellison said. "That’s the beauty of young people. It doesn’t have to be a huge event that everyone knows about. Maybe it needs to be a little more underground, like it used to be."
The task force is to report its findings and recommendations within 120 days.
--Todd Martens
Additional reporting by Rong-Gong Lin II. Stay tuned to Pop & Hiss and L.A. Now for further developments. |
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| theSEAN |
i have a visual of my head of this task force...
something along the lines of SWAT Kats meets Power Rangers |
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| modthispny |
| i asked markus schulz after his gig on sunday night about monster massive and he said yea well that might not even go down anymore..so the dj's are definitely aware of what's going on. |
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| anomalies |
| I'd be surprised if Schulz were to be at monster, as Gareth Emery has already been announced. |
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| modthispny |
| quote: | Originally posted by anomalies
I'd be surprised if Schulz were to be at monster, as Gareth Emery has already been announced. |
they can still book 2 trance dj's for mm. |
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| wesleyjf91 |
| First year at EDC. Was literally right by the line ride when the first fence jumping commenced. The reaction of the people around was the most appalling to me, and the unanimous disrespect for security personnel was absurd. EDC was amazing, but the immature behavior of all the individuals makes it less about the music and the atmosphere. Sad to say that EDC was supposed to be the best festival of my life and it turned out to be only mediocre. Especially considering the fact that I waited in the hot sun both days to be on the floor during the night. |
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| modthispny |
they can still book him...keep your head up. :)
during asot 450 interview, marcus schossow confirmed that he would play at monster massive too, so i think it's just a matter of time until they are both confirmed. :) |
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| anomalies |
| quote: | Originally posted by modthispny
they can still book him...keep your head up. :)
during asot 450 interview, marcus schossow confirmed that he would play at monster massive too, so i think it's just a matter of time until they are both confirmed. :) |
Wow, that would be a great lineup. From what I've seen out of the top ten DJs so far, Emery and Schulz are the best live DJs to see perform. Although I'm not a fan of some of the things that goes on at massives (see EDC), I would definitely come out, probably VIP.
I'll be keeping my eyes open for the full lineup :) |
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| pnutttty |
at least the bright side is...they are establishing a task force to establish "to examine and "enhance rave safety""
glad the directive is to "examine and enhance" rather than shut down the industry.
imo, this is a step in the right direction and good signal that the EDM festivals are being taken seriously now as a official business/money making/tax contributing/part of the viable economic landscape of LA....(as opposed to the previous waves of crackdowns in the 90's)....no?
ugh. i guess i'm old. |
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