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Twilight books / movies (pg. 5)
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| Vernon Wanderer |
| quote: | Originally posted by Marcus Summers
I'll never date another girl that reads or is interested in the twilight series. |
This.
ing insecure borderline arrogant immature double-faced childish confused cvnts. All of them. |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| I’ve seen the first two movies. They were both terrible, but the second one was 10x worse than the first. I don’t mind that they’ve really gayed up vampire lore (speculative fiction merely needs to be realistic within the boundaries it sets for itself) but they were just so ing boring. Virtually nothing happened. |
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| Schadenfreude |
vampire lore has always been "gayed up."
i never got the appeal...at least anne rice's book were readable....still gay but yeah. |
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| EddieZilker |
| quote: | Originally posted by Schadenfreude
vampire lore has always been "gayed up."
i never got the appeal...at least anne rice's book were readable....still gay but yeah. |
Oh, but those movies took gay to a whole new level. :rolleyes: |
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| Schadenfreude |
| not even tom cruise can outgay twilight. |
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| EddieZilker |
| quote: | Originally posted by Schadenfreude
not even tom cruise can outgay twilight. |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by Schadenfreude
vampire lore has always been "gayed up."
i never got the appeal...at least anne rice's book were readable....still gay but yeah. |
True Blood is pretty full on. Though I guess there’s still plenty of gay! It’s just not tamed-down e like twilight. |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by Schadenfreude
vampire lore has always been "gayed up." |
Not in I Am Legend. The book, not the film about Will Smith getting out-acted by a dog.
I've successfully managed to avoid reading or seeing any of Twilight. Based on the quality of recent (sub) literary mega-hits like The Da Vinci Code the franchise critiques itself. I'm more interested in the discourse surrounding the film, conducted entirely by people who hate it, as to the reason for its explosive popularity. For instance, the novel has an ostensibly patriarchal narrative action (despite being written by a woman and read primarily by girls), where passive female characters pine after active, heroic male characters, and yet the interesting twist is the passive females are the subjects and the active men are objectified. Discuss (2500 words). |
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| Schadenfreude |
| i suppose...but i wouldn't really call I am legend a vampire movie anymore than i could call 28 days later one. |
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| EddieZilker |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Not in I Am Legend. The book, not the film about Will Smith getting out-acted by a dog.
I've successfully managed to avoid reading or seeing any of Twilight. Based on the quality of recent (sub) literary mega-hits like The Da Vinci Code the franchise critiques itself. I'm more interested in the discourse surrounding the film, conducted entirely by people who hate it, as to the reason for its explosive popularity. For instance, the novel has an ostensibly patriarchal narrative action (despite being written by a woman and read primarily by girls), where passive female characters pine after active, heroic male characters, and yet the interesting twist is the passive females are the subjects and the active men are objectified. Discuss (2500 words). |
Electra Complex? |
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| idoru |
| quote: | Originally posted by mezzir
I got 100 pages into the first one.
Two years ago I managed my town's public pool and like 2/3 of the lifeguards are 17/18 y/o girls so naturally there were several copies going around. My sister (who is awesome) and I mercilessly made fun of them and finally one day in the middle of a terribly slow 13 hour shift I realized I'd read through the entirety of that day's New York Times as well as all my books, several others, and several issues of Cosmo laying around and I would be forced to either stare at already completed crosswords or read Twilight to pass the time. I swallowed my pride and started into it, prepared to secretly accept it as an okay book while maintaining my tough outer shell of mockery and contempt. I made it about 100 pages in before I decided that literally staring at already completed crosswords was more entertaining. It is some of the most god-awful writing I've ever read in my entire life, and that's just to start. The whole book is basically a mormonized glorification of an abusive relationship, and aside from being a poor, poor excuse for literature, this book has gotten to the point where women identify with and look up to the main character. She is a whiny ****. She sits and mopes when she's not with her gorgeous, perfect man (literally every time that dude's mentioned there are no less than two adjectives before his name), she sits and mopes and is depressed.
And now, two years later, I work at a bookstore. 13 year-old girls have an excuse for reading Twilight, because it basically reads like horrible fan-fiction, and thats who writes horrible fan-fiction. 40 year old fat women, however, should ing know better. We have an entire romance section for people like you, go ing use it. This stuff is not the epic romance of the 21st century, its some whiny **** pining for several hundred pages. And at least in the romance novels there's sex and sexual tension, not some creepy stalker dude involved in a relationship where they can't cause they're not married. The next person to ask 'if I liked Twilight, what else should I read' will get a proper response: link |
That was Goddamned beautiful. *tear* |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by EddieZilker
Electra Complex? |
I'm not really interested in a psycho-analytical angle, especially that kind of angle, because that kind of angle is only interested in providing endless proof to support its ty hypothesis.
I'm more interested in the feminist angle. It was Laura Mulvey's feminist analysis of cinema that popularised the idea that cinema is essentially patriarchal: male characters are usually active subjects where as women are passive objects. The passive/active thing would seem to be fairly crucial: a big part of this feminist theory is that men are defined by their actions and behaviour where as women are treated as objects and defined entirely by their appearance. But a lot has been made of how the male characters in Twilight are sexually objectified, especially by male geeks who don't like fantasy genre tropes being inverted. Is Twilight more or less patriarchal than the conventional model?
Another interesting subject is exactly why this has become so popular. With most male-oriented genre fiction it's pretty easy to decode the popularity. Whether it's comic book superheroes, animé, Jedi, the Matrix or Harry Potter's wizards, they all revolve around marginalised, usually geeky male figures being granted extraordinary powers that transcend their physical and social limitations to allow them to become heroic and powerful. Twilight is one of the few hugely popular teen-oriented fantasy narratives that doesn't fit the model, and it happens to be mainly consumed by girls. So what's the secret? |
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