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New ban! Starting Aug 1, 21 and under cannot have ANY alcohol in blood while driving!
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| Jayx1 |
It just doesnt stop around here with McGuinty does it?
| quote: | 21 new cutoff age for booze, driving
By ANTONELLA ARTUSO, QMI Agency
TORONTO - Drivers aged 21 years and under will be required to maintain a zero blood alcohol level while behind the wheel as of Aug. 1, QMI Agency has learned.
The no-booze rule applies even if the driver has a full licence.
The change is part of a package of driver reforms first introduced in 2008 by the Dalton McGuinty government.
"Perhaps the most precious thing that we have in our society is our children, and that includes our older children," McGuinty said when the changes were first announced.
"I think we owe it to our kids to take the kinds of measures, take the steps, that ensure that they will grow up safe."
Currently, Ontario drivers with a G1 or G2 beginner's licence must maintain a zero blood alcohol level.
However, motorists with a G licence won't get into trouble unless they're found to have a blood alcohol concentration (BAC) in the warning rage, 0.5 to 0.8, or higher.
The new rule demands that all drivers up to the age of 21 years, 364 days, 11 hours and 59 minutes maintain a zero BAC while motoring.
According to the MADD website, new stiffer sanctions for drivers who break these and other rules will take effect the same day.
Novice and young drivers caught drinking and driving get an immediate 24-hour roadside licence suspension, and could face a fine of $60-$500, according to MADD.
For a third conviction on this and other driving violations, a new driver would be stripped of a novice licence and forced to begin the process anew.
The anti-impaired driving groups say 15- to 25-year-olds are disproportionately involved in alcohol-related crash deaths.
"Zero BAC requirements have been shown, both internationally and in Canada ... to reduce the rates of alcohol-related crashes," the website says.
Government figures show that teen drivers are more likely to be in a collision than drivers in any other age group.
In 2005, motor vehicle collisions were the leading cause of hospital admissions among youth aged 15 to 24.
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Um, excuse me Mcguinty but people 18-21 are considered YOUNG ADULTS not OLDER CHILDREN! What a ing idiot.
How do we teach people responsibility if we dont give them any? I really think this is the first step toward a 21 and up drinking age in ontario. |
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| jester |
| God Bless America :p |
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| chinamon |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
How do we teach people responsibility if we dont give them any? I really think this is the first step toward a 21 and up drinking age in ontario. |
if a person can keep their BAC at 0% then they are much more responsible than a person who is able to have a few drinks.
edit: however, i do think this new law is dumb. just because a person had a couple beers does not mean they are not capable of driving. bbl gotta meet up with mcguinty now for some drinks. |
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by chinamon
if a person can keep their BAC at 0% then they are much more responsible than a person who is able to have a few drinks.
edit: however, i do think this new law is dumb. just because a person had a couple beers does not mean they are not capable of driving. bbl gotta meet up with mcguinty now for some drinks. |
if the law is .08 for adults, it should be that way for adults. How do people learn how to handle that law if we dont let them? |
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| Dior Homme |
I feel sorry for kids if the drinking age goes up to 21.
But assuming you just turn 19 thats 2 years with a license you cant get booked. So not that bad, especially since prime partying in a youth doesnt really start till like 22 or so. they are still irresponsible and immature (mentally) until 20-21.
I also dont believe people should be booked if they had 2 drinks and got behind the wheel. it does not always mean they are drunk. especially if you turn red after 1 beer. that holds no merit if you ask me. |
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| chinamon |
| quote: | Originally posted by Dior Homme
especially if you turn red after 1 beer. |
i hate that. :( |
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| geroin |
| 21y old in canada is like a 16y old in europe |
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| chinamon |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
How do people learn how to handle that law if we dont let them? |
but if the new law says 0% for under 21 then it teaches them to be even more responsible by not drinking at all. they are still handling the law... its just a new law. |
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| The Rattler |
The children! Won't somebody please think about the children!?
"Children aren't special" - George Carlin |
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| patpicos |
like the public works thingie, this is another example of too many shades of grey to make it more confusing for people
Now its like
-18 to 21 - no booze
- others up to .05 ur cool, 0.05 to .08....oooh lets be a pain and cause you trouble
- 0.08 ....oooh snap, ur ed |
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by chinamon
but if the new law says 0% for under 21 then it teaches them to be even more responsible by not drinking at all. they are still handling the law... its just a new law. |
so lets just make it 0 for everyone then. Why are we treating adults like children?
heres what i would do.
Id drop most drinking laws in ontario. You can drink in public, no last call etc. Also would mandate all night transit service on weekends.
In exchange there would be 0 tolerance for everyone for drinking and driving.
its time to start treating adults like adults. Im sick of the mcguinty nanny state |
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| Prometheus Xex |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
so lets just make it 0 for everyone then...
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Your wish may come sooner than you think.
Mark my words, it's going to happen. I'll bet within five years. |
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