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FAO: Lira - 21 Accents (pg. 5)
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Silky Johnson
Oh hey P.S. Stay in school, Nou. Keep on reaching for the top!
Lira
Nou, basically, what you're trying to convince everyone else is that chocolate ice cream should be the standard ice cream, and that all other flavours are simply variations on a theme :p
Silky Johnson
Vote Nou in 2012!
Lira
By the way, you're supposed to be recording your accents!

Jenny, where's that poetry you wrote about throbbing cocks?
Joss Weatherby
Nope. I am saying that it should be a standard because it is the most easily understood, the most clearly spoken, and has the least odd tricks that are specific to one region or another.

General American is the most common accent (and hence neutral), and PNW is an even more neutral version of General American spoken elsewhere in that is lacks any of the tweaks that areas where General American is also common have (like Northern States accents).

"General American is a notional accent of American English perceived by Americans to be most "neutral" and free of regional characteristics. A General American accent is not a specific well-defined standardized accent in the way that Received Pronunciation (RP) has historically been the standard, prestigious variant of the English language in England; rather, accents with different features can all be perceived as General American provided they lack certain non-standard features."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_...ional_phonology

I am not just pulling this out of my ass. Its pretty ing well known. The fact that Lira doesn't know it shows he really needs to study up on his English.
Silky Johnson
Should still be in that old thread. You're the one who upped it for me, aren't you? :p
Silky Johnson
quote:
Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
Nope. I am saying that it should be a standard because it is the most easily understood, the most clearly spoken, and has the least odd tricks that are specific to one region or another.

General American is the most common accent (and hence neutral), and PNW is an even more neutral version of General American spoken elsewhere in that is lacks any of the tweaks that areas where General American is also common have (like Northern States accents).

"General American is a notional accent of American English perceived by Americans to be most "neutral" and free of regional characteristics. A General American accent is not a specific well-defined standardized accent in the way that Received Pronunciation (RP) has historically been the standard, prestigious variant of the English language in England; rather, accents with different features can all be perceived as General American provided they lack certain non-standard features."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_...ional_phonology

I am not just pulling this out of my ass. Its pretty ing well known. The fact that Lira doesn't know it shows he really needs to study up on his English.






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God you are such a pathetic try-hard. Is this all you have in life?
Lira
quote:
Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
The fact that Lira doesn't know it shows he really needs to study up on his English.

Or perhaps, I've studied enough about language in general to know better, Nou ;)

There's no such thing as a neutral accent, that's what I'm trying to tell you.
Lira
quote:
Originally posted by jennypie
Should still be in that old thread. You're the one who upped it for me, aren't you? :p

No, wasn't me :conf:
Joss Weatherby
quote:
Originally posted by jennypie
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God you are such a pathetic try-hard. Is this all you have in life?


No, its what I decided to do this morning... :p I can still troll TA and put in 80+ hours of work a week.

Halcyon+On+On
quote:
Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
I am not just pulling this out of my ass. Its pretty ing well known. The fact that Lira doesn't know it shows he really needs to study up on his English.


. hahahahaha
Joss Weatherby
quote:
Originally posted by Lira
Or perhaps, I've studied enough about language in general to know better, Nou ;)

There's no such thing as a neutral accent, that's what I'm trying to tell you.



Yes, there is, ffs, do you even know what the word means?


of no particular kind, characteristics, etc.; indefinite:

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/neutral

It is neutral as it lacks the characteristics seen in regional areas of the US. Where someone in Boston might speak with a Boston accent there are also people that speak with General American, there are people that speak with a hint of Boston, etc.

You would use General American as the standard, the median, the baseline, the control subject, whatever you want to call it. All I am trying to say is that the PNW lacks any sort of large regional tweaks, like Chicago accent or North State Accents (think like Minnesota, southern Canadian accents) so that it is the most neutral of all of the areas because they speak General American and it lacks the tweaks found in any of the other regional areas of the US.

I think that is a pretty ing good definition and case for defining something as being neutral.
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