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Doctor Assisted Suicide (pg. 6)
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| Shaya007 |
| quote: | Originally posted by StereoPrincess
I agree with the passive approach. Palliative care is very great goal. Basically not doing or trying everything to save the life but making the last days as comfortable as possible.
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I was ok with this approach until I saw it first hand..it didn't look like they were comfortable @ all!! |
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| Ania_xox |
| quote: | Originally posted by VDub
Yes but you can't compare his injury with someone in end stage cancer...
He wanted to die because his condition was hard to handle. But it was treatable obviously...
Assisted suicide is for when 1. there is no hope of recovery and 2. your sickness keeps you in constant pain and misery... |
What's your name?
And it's not that black and white. Who's to say that his "pain and suffering" were not on par with any other condition? No one can determine the personal suffering of another human being and place it on a scale of 1 to 10. Not when you're speaking officially. And one must be speaking officially when the decision of ending a life comes into question.
The sanctity of life is preserved for a reason.
In most cultures around the globe, sanctity of life > quality of life
And who is to say that if someone was to forego assisted suicide and continue living, that their illness would not be cured after some time had passed?
Unlikely? Yes. But you can't ignore any shade of possibility when establishing legal protocol for ending a life. |
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| evil_cookie |
| quote: | Originally posted by Ania_xox
No one can determine the personal suffering of another human being and place it on a scale of 1 to 10. Not when you're speaking officially. And one must be speaking officially when the decision of ending a life comes into question.
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As opposed to unofficially questioning to end your life?
What? |
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| Silky Johnson |
| quote: | Originally posted by Ania_xox
And it's not that black and white. |
Which is exactly why, in places where right to die/death with dignity laws exist, it's assessed on a case by case basis.
Some of you are such cynics - it's not as dangerous as you're making it out to be, lol.
Be interesting to see how you cope with being on your death beds. :p |
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| Ania_xox |
| quote: | Originally posted by evil_cookie
As opposed to unofficially questioning to end your life?
What? |
I know, right?
I was just highlighting a basic point because I felt it had passed over some people's heads in here.
"well no, you're not suffering as much as this dude with leukemia so, while HE can die if he wants to... you can't - you're not suffering as much" |
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| 1dawoman |
| quote: | Originally posted by Ania_xox
What's your name?
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| Doctors have been assisting suicide for decades. |
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| StereoPrincess |
| quote: | Originally posted by Ania_xox
And it's not that black and white. Who's to say that his "pain and suffering" were not on par with any other condition? No one can determine the personal suffering of another human being and place it on a scale of 1 to 10. Not when you're speaking officially. And one must be speaking officially when the decision of ending a life comes into question.
The sanctity of life is preserved for a reason.
In most cultures around the globe, sanctity of life > quality of life
And who is to say that if someone was to forego assisted suicide and continue living, that their illness would not be cured after some time had passed?
Unlikely? Yes. But you can't ignore any shade of possibility when establishing legal protocol for ending a life. |
i agree with you. i think people try to make it too simple. yes/no type of thing. but it's far from that.
what did you guys think about Robert Latimer, the father that killed his daughter because she had cerebral palsy from birth?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Latimer |
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| *~LiSa-LoO~* |
You don't really get insight into what his daughter wanted though. It was the father making the decision for what's best for his daughter. We're talking about the actual person dying who is making the decision. Again, counseling would come in here. Perhaps if the daughter DID want to die, counseling would change her mind.
Personally, I think that if even after counseling the daughter wanted to die, that b/c she is underage, the parents would make the final decision (and not the initial decision that she should die b/c he can't bare to see her in so much pain). |
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| StereoPrincess |
| quote: | Originally posted by *~LiSa-LoO~*
You don't really get insight into what his daughter wanted though. It was the father making the decision for what's best for his daughter. We're talking about the actual person dying who is making the decision. Again, counseling would come in here. Perhaps if the daughter DID want to die, counseling would change her mind.
Personally, I think that if even after counseling the daughter wanted to die, that b/c she is underage, the parents would make the final decision (and not the initial decision that she should die b/c he can't bare to see her in so much pain). |
there are many times that patients are incapacitated for whatever reason and someone else is making the care decisions for them. |
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| *~LiSa-LoO~* |
| quote: | Originally posted by StereoPrincess
there are many times that patients are incapacitated for whatever reason and someone else is making the care decisions for them. |
Absolutely. But you asked about the Latimer case specifically, which I responded to. And, correct me if I'm wrong, in this situation she wasn't a complete vegetable and still interacted with people. In fact, she went to school. So she still could have gone through counseling and made the decision whether or not she wanted to end her life. And then if she did, her father would have the last say, rather than the first, like I said. |
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| VDub |
| quote: | Originally posted by 1dawoman
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Did you come up with that all by yourself??
Oh wait... No you didn't... |
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