Funny how the Americans now complain about their rights being violated. They are the ones that after all wanted their government to do everything possible to prevent those "evil terrorists" to strike again. I say too little to late for complaning.
watch this:
Shaya007
I see it @ Pearson once in a while..some of them get too crazy
with old people and children specially
Mortyman
The only big deal is that she was entitled to a private pat-down, and she didn't get one... because the airport doesn't have the space/facility/room/whatever to do it. Can't blame them for feeling victimized, but you certainly can blame them for making it even thread worthy topic, which it really shouldn't be.
And to compare pat downs from a club to an airport is just plain ridiculous! :rolleyes:
Endlesswave
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Originally posted by hardcore trancer
Funny how the Americans now complain about their rights being violated. They are the ones that after all wanted their government to do everything possible to prevent those "evil terrorists" to strike again. I say too little to late for complaning.
watch this:
Would you rather have no security and get on a plane?
I understand overreaction but COME ON, there has to be some safety/security standards no?
(I can't watch that at work, later on).
Also why put "evil terrorists" in brackets? :s
People are out to hurt and seriously damage the free world...sometimes I think you post on here as though that's not true. :nervous:
evil_cookie
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Originally posted by hardcore trancer
Funny how the Americans now complain about their rights being violated. They are the ones that after all wanted their government to do everything possible to prevent those "evil terrorists" to strike again. I say too little to late for complaning.
LOL here we go.
Every discussion with you can be summed up thusly: I hate America and/or I hate Israel.
As for the topic in discussion; I'm all for a thorough inspection when boarding a plane. I've been patted down several times and I have been randomly selected as well. Sure it's a nuisance, but I like knowing that measures are being taken to ensure security.
Also,
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Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
If you don't want to be thoroughly searched then don't fly....pretty simple answer.
hardcore trancer
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Originally posted by Endlesswave
Would you rather have no security and get on a plane?
I understand overreaction but COME ON, there has to be some safety/security standards no?
Thera is no win scenerio here sadly. If You stop all the search something might happen and then we complain why didn our government do anything. If we let the government to do what it wants in order to protect us then we'll just have to stfu and just let them even if we dont like what they are doing.
At the same time I shouldnt have to feel like I'm a god damn criminal when I travel and get harassed by the Airport security. They do cross the line and they know they can get away with it.
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Also why put "evil terrorists" in brackets? :s
People are out to hurt and seriously damage the free world...sometimes I think you post on here as though that's not true. :nervous:
Because I'm sick and tired of that term and I see it as nothing but abuse of rights. War on terror has cost us billions and has killed many innocent poeple around the world. it is a huge Propaganda and nothing but fear mongering and it is not working since there is still terrorism happening around the world.
hardcore trancer
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Originally posted by evil_cookie
LOL here we go.
Every discussion with you can be summed up thusly: I hate America and/or I hate Israel.
whats your postition in this matter? do you have anything useful to say?
Endlesswave
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Originally posted by hardcore trancer
Thera is no win scenerio here sadly. If You stop all the search something might happen and then we complain why didn our government do anything. If we let the government to do what it wants in order to protect us then we'll just have to stfu and just let them even if we dont like what they are doing.
At the same time I shouldnt have to feel like I'm a god damn criminal when I travel and get harassed by the Airport security. They do cross the line and they know they can get away with it.
Because I'm sick and tired of that term and I see it as nothing but abuse of rights. War on terror has cost us billions and has killed many innocent poeple around the world. it is a huge Propaganda and nothing but fear mongering and it is not working since there is still terrorism happening around the world.
Harassment and security measures are not the same thing. Sure they do cross a line and they can only get away with it if people say nothing (as far as I know I think they'll be more lax about it in the future but at the same time still follow protocol). I doubt protocol means going through someone's pee bag, etc.
Rights vs security is what you're saying but not all of it is propaganda. There ARE legitimate security concerns.
To dismiss this is just nonsensical.
To say 'it's not working' and terrorism is still happening doesn't really do anything. At least the authorities are trying something.
SkyHigh
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Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
and as I said, I can see how some people would feel violated being searched like this. If you don't want to be thoroughly searched then don't fly....pretty simple answer.
Ummhhhhhhh!! Hard to swim over the ocean...
Don`t go you say? :(
ChemEnhanced
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Originally posted by SkyHigh
Ummhhhhhhh!! Hard to swim over the ocean...
Don`t go you say? :(
they have these things called boats
Endlesswave
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Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
they have these things called boats
Yes, boats are great when it takes weeks/month (almost) to travel long distances.
Comrade Stalin
They should drop the pat downs and strip-search machines. I don't see what is so hard about scanning passengers with non-invasive explosives detection devices.
