Originally posted by EgosXII
I don't really think negative enforcement is that bad of an idea on kids: At least to an extent.
the airy fairy parenting of today is as silly as the psychotic violence and neglect that used to happen. As everyone said, kids aren't capable of rationalising their behaviour in some cases... i watched a tiny bit of the video, and he knew he did something wrong, and then lied about it, do you let it go there?
kids learn their behaviour from the parents (obivously)- this kid knew he was bad, and deserved to be repremanded (in the parents eye anyway), they understand physical denouncements on every level, is it really that bad? It works on animals.
I guess its a case of context, but i really don't think physical punishment is a bad idea for kids at all times. I think the super-liberal parents have raised the bunch of ****s who are now ruining the cities who think they're invincible, omnipotent super-men, when they're really s who never got corrected when they were bad as kids, and so have no concept of right and wrong.
coming from someone without much experience with kids (no doubt obviously :p )
If you need to use corporal punishment to teach your kids a lesson, you're doing it wrong.
There's plenty of research that shows it isn't necessary, and that it has negative effects later in life. There are other parenting/discipline techniques that are far more effective.
FAS= Fetal Alcohol Syndrome ... basically his 15 yr old mum drank alot and took drugs to most likely forget the fact that she was raped and is now pregnant.
ziptnf
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Originally posted by Miss Pie
If you need to use corporal punishment to teach your kids a lesson, you're doing it wrong.
There's plenty of research that shows it isn't necessary, and that it has negative effects later in life. There are other parenting/discipline techniques that are far more effective.
How should one tackle this situation appropriately? The child got in trouble at school for fighting, amongst other bad behavior. Hot sauce and cold showers are cruel and unusual, but what would you suggest to do to correct his behavior? Not trying to argue, I'm just curious.
geroin
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Originally posted by Miss Pie
If you need to use corporal punishment to teach your kids a lesson, you're doing it wrong.
There's plenty of research that shows it isn't necessary, and that it has negative effects later in life. There are other parenting/discipline techniques that are far more effective.
what would be the best technique for a kid to learn his lesson then?
from what i've seen here in canada kids are ing spoiled brats, reminds me of this video:
bigsnail
i wish all i got was some hot sauce in the mouth and a cold shower as a kid. my dad would whip me so hard, i knew better than to act up.
LiquidX
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Originally posted by Pokit
Was wondering the same thing.
Not saying the thread title is trying to make a malicious statement about all Mormons, but I don't understand why videos with titles like this exist. Are people trying to make blanket statement about large groups of people based on one member making a mistake? The world is full people people like this woman who do stupid things.
I realized that you are the closest TA to me..until I go back to FL. I'm in Provo, UT heh.
Lira
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Originally posted by JEO
Hoh.
FAO: Lira, please elaborate what speech like this would sound like. A rough demonstration is enough.
I sort of messed up the order: That's my Jamaican/Italian/French-Canadian/Slovak accent with a Geordie twist.
david.michael
I have no real opinion other than that woman should get the hot sauce and cold shower treatment for simply having that hairstyle.
Silky Johnson
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Originally posted by ziptnf
How should one tackle this situation appropriately? The child got in trouble at school for fighting, amongst other bad behavior. Hot sauce and cold showers are cruel and unusual, but what would you suggest to do to correct his behavior? Not trying to argue, I'm just curious.
Why do you think he was fighting in the first place? Research shows a very strong link between childhood (and adult) aggression problems, "bad behaviour" and corporal punishment. If you hit a child, all they're learning is that aggression is an acceptable way to solve problems.
Discipline requires consistency, explanation, and consequences. A child should always know why they are getting in trouble, and the parent should always follow through with the punishment. Time outs and taking away privileges are effective if used properly.
The major problem with discipline is that parents often don't follow through. When you yell at kids and hit them/punish them physically it affects their self esteem and ability to deal with problems in the future. But if you use explanation and non-physical consequences to discipline a child, they learn what it means to be accountable and how to solve problems constructively. How to control their anger, etc.
Kids don't learn how to be idiots on their own, they learn it from their parents. Again, if you have to resort to hitting your kids to teach them a lesson, chances are you're an idiot and you're teaching your child to be an idiot too. Discipline requires patience. Hitting and is an easy way out for people who don't know any better. Hitting is a reaction out of anger/an inability to be patient and work through a problem constructively. Don't try to tell me it's not, lol.
I mean, do you really think it's ok to treat children "cruelly and unusually"?? Is that how you would treat an adult? Children have the same rights as adults, and corporal punishment is abuse of human rights, plain and simple.
Funny Gera, we showed that video in class when presented our research proposal about corporal punishment. :p
geroin
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Originally posted by Miss Pie
Kids don't learn how to be idiots on their own, they learn it from their parents.
I agree with most but disagree with this, most kids (older) look at their peers, not parents and try to be like them, especially their best friends, if their friends are a bad influence and are idiots then your kid will act like that as well, just like shown in the video.
Kids have to know their place and what is right and what is wrong, just by taking away privileges it won't teach a kid a proper lesson imo.
Silky Johnson
Yes, it will. I've researched this issue extensively, and you're plain wrong. :p
I can send you the work I did on this when I get home, if you really want to see proof.
