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EYE WEEKLY's "the Best and Worst in Toronto Clubbing" (pg. 5)
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Ferg
I know its not the main focus but it went into who was doing well internationally and listed a couple dj's who were doing well. Just thought Arnej deserved some sort of mention if you going to talk about electronic music as a whole in Toronto, no? |
Arnej isnt hipster approved LOL |
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| Spam |
| quote: | Originally posted by VDub
It is good that Footy is doing so well but to call it the benchmark??? |
Yup, and with good reason too. |
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| Nobbie Q |
| quote: | Originally posted by GGM
Oh man I was just about to write that same thing. It's always insane at TIL, you can have a world class DJ, club is packed, then at 2:30-3:00 every time boom half the club empties out cause theres no booze around. With guv it's fairly irrelevant cause their capacity is so high you don't really notice if 5% of the people get bottle service and most of it is off to the sides and back where people on the dance floor could care less about it. Plus they do a great job at keeping those people in the drink, where people there for the music rarely venture.
It's been highlighted above but basically the majority of bottle service people aren't there for the music. They don't make my life by any means and I'll continue to have a good time with them around. But the bottom line is whether it's dating, talking, hanging out or in this case clubbing, you'd always rather do it with similar minded people with the similar interests. Bottle service and the crowd it brings detract from that environment. FW understands this and is booming because of it. Hopefully other DJ luring clubs can realise this sooner than later.
The only real benefit in all this is that potentially with clubs profiting off it it can bring us better quality DJs. But like it's been argued above it's hard to say whether the profit would be that much lower without it. Personally I'd be fine with paying higher cover for a better atmosphere. look at Stereo in Montreal where booze is the least of priorities, high cover is charged in it's place, big names are brought in, and the crowd is unparalleled. I'd take that over TIL any day of the week... |
I think one big thing about stereo and guv that you're not mentioning is the drugs factor which keeps ppl going all night. I notice guv clears out less because its long hours accomadate the drugs ppl take so of course booze becomes less of a concern if there's other stuff taking it's place. |
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| kotsy |
Congrats to fw! Definitely a brilliant year for international bookings over a wide array of styles.
Loved the rant on bottle service. Couldn't agree more. Stereo/zone/fw/gallery ftw :)
| quote: | Originally posted by Ferg
Arnej rank 87 on dj mag top 100. Not trying to be a smart ass but did any of the other dj's make it in? |
deadmau5 was at #4 |
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| Intangible |
Congrats to FW, you had a great year.
Im excited to see where the scene is going for 2011! |
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| Ferg |
| quote: | Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
I would think she would know of Arnej...she may not care for him but I'm sure she is aware of his success. Its the people that read eye weekly that probably don't really care about Arnej or trance. |
Who is Eye weekly geared toward? Aside from deadmau5 are they more likely to know the other dj's mentioned? |
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| WittyHandle |
| quote: | Originally posted by Big Boss
Hating on bottle service is like a bottle service crowd hating on people that go to afterhours, what's the point?
Different strokes for different folks. Bottle service isn't my thing and I don't like the music, but I don't think I'm better than that crowd because I like house/techno music.
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| basilisk |
I doubt anyone has an omniscient overview of what goes on in Toronto... there are scenes within scenes within scenes, crossing over and intermingling without even basic knowledge of one another, a consequence of just how lively this city is. Any of these "best of" type article are going to miss most of what goes on.
That being said, it wasn't a bad article even if it demonstrates a narrow perspective. I caught Egyptrixx on Valentine's Day at Wrongbar last year and quite liked what I heard... since then I've seen him all over the place, most memorably at Shambhala, and have been digging a lot of his new tunes (e.g. Liberation Front). He has a very different style, very distinctive. |
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| cmccann87 |
| quote: | Originally posted by GGM
look at Stereo in Montreal where booze is the least of priorities, high cover is charged in it's place, big names are brought in, and the crowd is unparalleled. I'd take that over TIL any day of the week... |
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| gilboman |
| quote: | Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
The people getting bottle service are the same people who were probably spending just as much...if not more in drinks before bottle service became the thing to do. I would like to see what kind of increase there really is...if any. |
nope, bottle service usually I spend way more..e.g., on non bottle service night, drinks will come out to maybe 100ish a person, got bottle service for a friend's bday and it was 300 each, for a bill of $3800 or so for the night. Bottle service is the way clubs need to run to make $$ not a round at a time.
a bottle of magnum vodka is like $650....that's a lot of single serving rounds and much more efficient way to make $$
So atleast from my samplesize, bottle service most definitely racks up the bill. |
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| gilboman |
| quote: | Originally posted by Digit ILL
Bottle service is a reflection of the clubs that push it, not giving two s about the music.
Remember cobra BEFORE the benches in the dancefloor?
The sheer volume of booze they sell on wed, fri and sat, led them to ignore that fact that the thursday was based on music first....so they added more tables.
Its the perfect example (in my mind) of what bottle service is. A way to make money off of people that are going to the club REGARDLESS of whats being played.
If the clubs priority is NOT bottle service, its a tell-tale sign that you are in a place that cares about the music before the ""look at me im cool, i bought a bottle of booze at 500% profit" approach.
Hence the remarks about footwork, and why its the "benchmark" its plainly obvious, the music is the focus.
Think i'm kidding?
Go somewhere where bottle service is the focus and tell me how the music is. |
clubs aren't a charity, it's not cheap to run a club, bottle service is what allows them to survive and god forbid make a profit. Real people invested real money into the opening and operation of a club, isn't it only fair they get their investment back and maybe some profit?
It's too ing bad if you don't like them making a profit, but unless you open your own club and run it the way you like, then there's really no point to say anything. It's like saying every business should give me free stuff instead of caring about staying in business...not gonna happen. |
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| Shaya007 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Digit ILL
Bottle service is a reflection of the clubs that push it, not giving two s about the music.
Remember cobra BEFORE the benches in the dancefloor?
The sheer volume of booze they sell on wed, fri and sat, led them to ignore that fact that the thursday was based on music first....so they added more tables.
Its the perfect example (in my mind) of what bottle service is. A way to make money off of people that are going to the club REGARDLESS of whats being played.
If the clubs priority is NOT bottle service, its a tell-tale sign that you are in a place that cares about the music before the ""look at me im cool, i bought a bottle of booze at 500% profit" approach.
Hence the remarks about footwork, and why its the "benchmark" its plainly obvious, the music is the focus.
Think i'm kidding?
Go somewhere where bottle service is the focus and tell me how the music is. |
I<3FW :)
but $$$ is the main focus of any club, no matter what..don't kid yourself |
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