Originally posted by Burak14
07. Ferry Corsten - Punk (Arty Rock-N-Rolla Remix)
08. Axwell - Heart Is King (Dennis Shepard Remix)
10. Armin van Buuren feat. Sophie Ellis Bextor - Not Giving Up On Love (Dash Berlin 4AM Mix)
13. Armin van Buuren - Full Focus
16. Armin van Buuren feat. BT - These Silent Hearts (Remix)
22. Dash Berlin - Till The Sky Falls Down (Arctic Moon Remix)
26. Zombie Nation - Kernkraft 400 (Chris Schweizer Bootleg Mix)
30. Benny Benassi - Satisfaction (Remix)
:eek: kkkk if i hear punk remix one more time im just gonna end my life
MeLLyMeL
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Originally posted by Burak14
07. Ferry Corsten - Punk (Arty Rock-N-Rolla Remix)
08. Axwell - Heart Is King (Dennis Shepard Remix)
10. Armin van Buuren feat. Sophie Ellis Bextor - Not Giving Up On Love (Dash Berlin 4AM Mix)
13. Armin van Buuren - Full Focus
16. Armin van Buuren feat. BT - These Silent Hearts (Remix)
22. Dash Berlin - Till The Sky Falls Down (Arctic Moon Remix)
26. Zombie Nation - Kernkraft 400 (Chris Schweizer Bootleg Mix)
30. Benny Benassi - Satisfaction (Remix)
lol if this is the best set you heard in a long time then i feel bad for you. go listen to some manuel le saux where all this cheese is left out.
Love u. We hate the same songs :D
yankeeBaby
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Originally posted by Burak14
07. Ferry Corsten - Punk (Arty Rock-N-Rolla Remix)
08. Axwell - Heart Is King (Dennis Shepard Remix)
10. Armin van Buuren feat. Sophie Ellis Bextor - Not Giving Up On Love (Dash Berlin 4AM Mix)
13. Armin van Buuren - Full Focus
16. Armin van Buuren feat. BT - These Silent Hearts (Remix)
22. Dash Berlin - Till The Sky Falls Down (Arctic Moon Remix)
26. Zombie Nation - Kernkraft 400 (Chris Schweizer Bootleg Mix)
30. Benny Benassi - Satisfaction (Remix)
lol if this is the best set you heard in a long time then i feel bad for you. go listen to some manuel le saux where all this cheese is left out.
Arent these newbs talking about how we are stuck in the past, yet half of these songs are old as hell?
:nervous: :rolleyes: NOT a good tracklist.
tranceforeva
god damn the music elitism here is off the charts. i'm actually now starting to take enjoyment out of how mad these old hags get over "mainstream" trance. newsflash granpdas: your taste in music is just as respectable as anyone else's
Burak14
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Originally posted by tranceforeva
god damn the music elitism here is off the charts. i'm actually now starting to take enjoyment out of how mad these old hags get over "mainstream" trance. newsflash granpdas: your taste in music is just as respectable as anyone else's
i don't respect anyone who's in the scene for years and still has a ty taste in music. the reason trance isn't trance is because of people who like mainstream like yourself. who the wants to heat satisfaction, not giving up on love, till the sky falls down or house at a trance event? and i'm suppose to respect armin because he is the only dj keeping trance alive with his big events? yea, okayyy.
doriangray
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Originally posted by Burak14
i don't respect anyone who's in the scene for years and still has a ty taste in music. the reason trance isn't trance is because of people who like mainstream like yourself. who the wants to heat satisfaction, not giving up on love, till the sky falls down or house at a trance event? and i'm suppose to respect armin because he is the only dj keeping trance alive with his big events? yea, okayyy.
So wait, you're saying that you don't respect someone who's been in the scene for years and doesn't have the same taste for trance as you? Calling it ty is entirely subjective. It's kinda like listening to underground emo music and condemning the first pop emo song that hits the airwaves as terrible. Terrible to who? I think the greatest appeal of trance is the wide spectrum of which its enjoyed - and without it trance would be a much smaller, more underdeveloped genre. Everyone is going to feel, experience, and need music to have its own unique affect on them to enjoy it. It's cool to have your own, but sharing that enjoyment with others who may have not had the ability/opportunity to evolve their musical enjoyment seems more productive then bashing what they've got.
Burak14
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Originally posted by doriangray
So wait, you're saying that you don't respect someone who's been in the scene for years and doesn't have the same taste for trance as you? Calling it ty is entirely subjective. It's kinda like listening to underground emo music and condemning the first pop emo song that hits the airwaves as terrible. Terrible to who? I think the greatest appeal of trance is the wide spectrum of which its enjoyed - and without it trance would be a much smaller, more underdeveloped genre. Everyone is going to feel, experience, and need music to have its own unique affect on them to enjoy it. It's cool to have your own, but sharing that enjoyment with others who may have not had the ability/opportunity to evolve their musical enjoyment seems more productive then bashing what they've got.
most people on ta has been in the scene for so long that they know the difference between real trance and ty aka popy aka mainstream trance. so, yes, people wil always point it out. if an 18 years old person goes up to an 30 years old person and tells him usher is better than what michael jackson was, don't you think that person is gonna point out the fact he/she is wrong? this is the way i look at it. i'm not bashing anyone, i'm pointing out the fact that he's wrong.
"I think the greatest appeal of trance is the wide spectrum of which its enjoyed"
basically you're saying the more known song is better than less known one? you really think satisfaction is a better song than the following one because it's more known and more liked
all i'm trying to say is that i'm not gonna listen to a person who likes hearing satisfaction, not giving up on love etc, and then tells me armin ripped it. i'll just laugh at that person.
when was the last time armin played this song?
yet, he plays dash berlins remix of universal nation. is that how you keep trance alive?
doriangray
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Originally posted by Burak14
most people on ta has been in the scene for so long that they know the difference between real trance and ty aka popy aka mainstream trance. so, yes, people wil always point it out. if an 18 years old person goes up to an 30 years old person and tells him usher is better than what michael jackson was, don't you think that person is gonna point out the fact he/she is wrong? this is the way i look at it. i'm not bashing anyone, i'm pointing out the fact that he's wrong.
"I think the greatest appeal of trance is the wide spectrum of which its enjoyed"
basically you're saying the more known song is better than less known one? you really think satisfaction is a better song than the following one because it's more known and more liked
all i'm trying to say is that i'm not gonna listen to a person who likes hearing satisfaction, not giving up on love etc, and then tells me armin ripped it. i'll just laugh at that person.
when was the last time armin played this song?
yet, he plays dash berlins remix of universal nation. is that how you keep trance alive?
Loved Hensha the curtain!
No no, by wide spectrum I meant the large variety of trance that exists and is enjoyed. Trance would become pretty boring (at least to me) if there was only one style or way it was produced.
Re: MJ vs Usher - clearly the 30yo has had an entirely different experience - he's seen MJ live, he's lived through the music when it had a huge influence on culture, etc - so that lives on. The 18yo is living through the same thing with Usher (or whoever). The experience goes far beyond just the music itself. For example, an indie band I used to listen to in high school - I still hold in my heart as great music - but they're to mostly everyone else who would hear them today and wouldn't care. It's all perspective.
If there was a 'musical perfection' that existed that appealed to everyone, we should have certainly found it by now... but there isn't. Certainly there are artists with far more talent than others - but that talent isn't to make "great music" but the ability to appeal emotionally through sound - that talent can appeal to large groups of people, or a select few.. and both are good! Without it we'd all be listening to the same and same DJ.
I think, as long as you LOVE music, and you can appreciate what it does to you, then thats all that matters. I'm sure there's trance you love that would bore me, and thats OK. Arty's Zara track blows me away every time I hear it, and I don't really care who it doesn't appeal to.
I completely understand why you'd rip on someone coming off of an Armin set like that. You're experience and taste is much more evolved.. but not evolved doesn't mean poor if the experience you walk away from is the same.
Sorry for such a long rant - I'm not ripping on you and I'm sure I'd appreciate your evolved music taste. I'm more trying to understand why people like different styles and why different music has different emotional appeal.. been on my mind for the last two days.
trancelaxer
That was my first time hearing those tracks and they are amazing :crazy: I agree 100% that there were more then a few tracks in armins set that were out of place and horrible. But for most part it was a great set to my ears. I would switch those two tracks in for Satisfaction anyday, but how could it be our fault for never hearing those tracks before? Our music selection can only go as far as what we have heard before.
yankeeBaby
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Originally posted by doriangray
No no, by wide spectrum I meant the large variety of trance that exists and is enjoyed. Trance would become pretty boring (at least to me) if there was only one style or way it was produced.
days.
Thats exactly its, though. If you look at the tracklist Burak put up (which is the only thing people are commenting on), these songs are the exact same songs that were being played 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, years ago. Its one thing to drop a classic once in a while, but these songs arent played "once in a while", they have been played to death for years and years and YEARS. Can you see why some people would think this RECENT TL would be boring now?
Tranceforeva: you can keep calling people "grandpa's" all you want, but you are speaking back to people who are young (Burak is what, 22?) lol you are missing the point entirely and no one is getting offended because we all know you are talking out of your ass when you refer to someone in their 20's as "grandpa." LOLOLOL.. NO one is trying to convince you not to like what you like.....but they comment because they have a sense of what has been played, long past your 9 months in the scene. The reason why you still enjoy it is because these songs may be fairly new for you to hear in a club, but if you go to a hip hop club, EDM club, etc...and hear the same song for 3-10 years, you will eventually understand that people arent "mad" they just want to move forward and hear something new for once. For instance, I am a huge Ferry fan, and I dont mind if he drops a classic or two, but I also get bored if he plays a straight set of "Beautiful, Fire, Punk, Out of the Blue, Brain box, etc etc etc, because if he were to do that I would be hearing the same exact set for the last 5 years with nothing new.....great songs, but that gets old!)
The songs listed are "mainstream" because they are old and overplayed. There is no progression and that kills music.
blazed it
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Originally posted by yankeeBaby
Thats exactly its, though. If you look at the tracklist Burak put up (which is the only thing people are commenting on), these songs are the exact same songs that were being played 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, years ago. Its one thing to drop a classic once in a while, but these songs arent played "once in a while", they have been played to death for years and years and YEARS. Can you see why some people would think this RECENT TL would be boring now?
Tranceforeva: you can keep calling people "grandpa's" all you want, but you are speaking back to people who are young (Burak is what, 22?) lol you are missing the point entirely and no one is getting offended because we all know you are talking out of your ass when you refer to someone in their 20's as "grandpa." LOLOLOL.. NO one is trying to convince you not to like what you like.....but they comment because they have a sense of what has been played, long past your 9 months in the scene. The reason why you still enjoy it is because these songs may be fairly new for you to hear in a club, but if you go to a hip hop club, EDM club, etc...and hear the same song for 3-10 years, you will eventually understand that people arent "mad" they just want to move forward and hear something new for once. For instance, I am a huge Ferry fan, and I dont mind if he drops a classic or two, but I also get bored if he plays a straight set of "Beautiful, Fire, Punk, Out of the Blue, Brain box, etc etc etc, because if he were to do that I would be hearing the same exact set for the last 5 years with nothing new.....great songs, but that gets old!)
The songs listed are "mainstream" because they are old and overplayed. There is no progression and that kills music.
nicely put!
yankeeBaby
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Originally posted by trancelaxer
That was my first time hearing those tracks and they are amazing :crazy: I agree 100% that there were more then a few tracks in armins set that were out of place and horrible. But for most part it was a great set to my ears. I would switch those two tracks in for Satisfaction anyday, but how could it be our fault for never hearing those tracks before? Our music selection can only go as far as what we have heard before.
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Originally posted by doriangray
Sorry for such a long rant - I'm not ripping on you and I'm sure I'd appreciate your evolved music taste. I'm more trying to understand why people like different styles and why different music has different emotional appeal.. been on my mind for the last two days.
I can appreciate the way you guys speak about music more than the last guy. People like different things, and thats just the end of that convo and I respect that. However.....there shouldnt be any question that when people are upset at the lack of progression in a music, they might be upset that the original emotion they had felt is disappearing....
Hearing the tracks for the first time will ALWAYS be a different feeling than hearing them on repeat a 1000 times (with the exception of a few classic that we will always hold near to our heart, but in general, hearing the same song on the radio everyday, eventually they fade and elicit far less emotion, to the point of getting obnoxious and annoying).
On that note there is a huge difference between hearing a classic dropped that hasnt been played in MANY years, feeling and reliving that emotion; as opposed to hearing the same song over and over and over for a million sets. Thats not a classic, thats just an old song that has been played too many times.
:wtf:
lol also: I think people have their years messed up, because MJ was biggest in the 80's, in which most of us were unborn or toddlers ;) :) I would say MJ was a huge icon, but if we were to tag a generation to it, it would have to be for people closer to 40 who were actually old enough to enough it ;) ;)
