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How much is gasoline in your area? (pg. 5)
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Cloudburst
$2.46/ liter = $9.31 / gallon
Nrg2Nfinit
...and i didnt even complain about gas before these high rolling europeans came out
infinity HiGH
quote:
Originally posted by igottaknow
My comments are more directed at the EU, UK, Canada, Japan. Not that any system is perfect. Most ppl from outside the US only know you can earn more here but don't take the high cost of living into account. In particular that in a capitalist system the cost and risk is put squarely on the individual with very little safety net. Healthcare and college is very good here if you can afford it. I remember talking to someone from France who wanted transfer to a US college but couldn't afford it. So I asked how much was she currently paying for tuition and she said $50 a semester! Here you're talking $80,000 for a 4 yr degree.


Hate to break it to you but school and healthcare aren't free in Canada
Ian
$10.55 USD
Lilith
$1.55 to 1.60 for premium unleaded, about $1.39 to $1.48 for regular unleaded per litre.
igottaknow
quote:
Originally posted by Vivid Boy
but Toronto isnt am NYC or LA or Chicago. Toronto is hardly on the map, you really cant compare toronto to NYC theres no reason why toronto should be so in expensive.


junker homes outside of toronto still go for half a million dollars.

Its supply/demand that dictate real estate prices in a given area. How else do presume prices are set? I couldn't even begin to rate what city is better than the other. Needless to say the known is less appealing than the unknown but you are free to move where ever you choose. I've heard many ppl who have visited Toronto describe it in glowing terms of the shopping and the public transportation (train in particular).
VDub
quote:
Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit
500 K house




now in canada
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you can only get a 5 year fixed mortgage so we have to hike the interest rates up to deal with fluctuations.

so lets say 10% interest over 30 years (lock in on some good years and some bad years (not trying the variable route)

400 k mortgage
total principle + interest $1,263,703.06
total paid for home 16263703.06
no writeoff on interest expense

total paid 1.6 million for a 500k house

now im not even counting property taxes, hydro heating etc AND higher marginal tax rates.

so thats more than double the cost of living to purcahse a house in that basic example.


What do you mean you can only get 5 yr fixed???

And 10%???

Who the is paying 10%????
srussell0018
quote:
Originally posted by igottaknow
Here you're talking $80,000 for a 4 yr degree.


The school I went to was $45,000 per year my freshman year, and $48,000 per year by my senior year. It's quite absurd actually. I'm pretty sure it's $50k+ now.
VDub
quote:
Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit
edit, i saw your post wasnt in reference to the example i made

so yes.. 30 k isnt that high.. some places in toronto rent for much more than that.. i think a decent place to rent would be about 3000$ per month.


Do you know how many sick apartments you can get in downtown Toronto for less than 3K a month???

Your numbers are HUGELY inflated...

Don't you live in Ottawa??
igottaknow
quote:
Originally posted by srussell0018
The school I went to was $45,000 per year my freshman year, and $48,000 per year by my senior year. It's quite absurd actually.

the 20k was a rough average between public and private. my point was whats a few extra dollars at the pump when compared to expensive services such as higher education and healthcare, which have been going up at much faster rate than the cost of living.

In regards to healthcare the US I believe is one of the most expensive in the world and is turning into the haves and have nots.

The current system works like this: Healthcare is so expensive you need insurance. As a result health insurance is so expensive its only affordable if its offered by your employer. Everything is fine until you get sick and can't work or lose your job. Then you have to pay for your own insurance, if you can't you are at risk for losing your home and life savings if you get sick. I believe illness is the number one reason people declare bankruptcy in the US. The trend lately has been for business to push the cost and risk to the worker by not offering health insurance.

A few extra dollars in gas tax pale in comparison to the cost of healthcare and higher education. In most places in the US there isn't an alternative means of transportation other than the car. Gas prices could go to $10 gallon and I'd still have to pay it if I wanted to keep my job.

Jackson
How long does your fuel last you guys?

Cost me £50 to fill up ($83) and lasts 400 miles.
srussell0018
It costs me around $40 to fill up my car, and I'm not sure about the mileage, but it lasts about 2 weeks. I have about a 15 minute drive to work 5 days a week, and then just miscellaneous driving for errands or going wherever. I think my car gets about 25mpg city and around 30mpg highway.

The last time I filled up my car, the person who had filled up their tank before me had spent $90 filling it up. At around $4 a gallon, that must've been a pretty big ing gas tank. I don't know how I still see people driving around in massive SUVs getting like 10-15mpg with gas prices the way they are now.
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