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| srussell0018 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Happymess
Well that's very kind of you but I don't consider myself "very attractive". I just don't care, I don't follow trends, much less take into account what other people think of a certain look/hairstyle, which is very convenient cause I get to do whhat I want. :tongue3 |
Who said I was talking about you? :o
Call me:gsmile: |
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| Happymess |
| quote: | Originally posted by srussell0018
Who said I was talking about you? :o
Call me:gsmile: |
Because I was the one who said "Beauty is relative". :o
I'm never gonna call you. |
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| srussell0018 |
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| Moral Hazard |
| quote: | Originally posted by Happymess
I'm never gonna call you. |
Poor, poor, Russel... just got slammed for everyone to see.
BTW, I'm not calling you either, Dude. |
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| nefardec |
| quote: | Originally posted by Fledz
I would hazard to say that a lot of the airbrushed and stick figure "beauties" in magazines are driven more by what women perceive to be perfection, rather than men. A point so conveniently always skipped over. |
srussell has it right - it's more of female interpretations of what men like - better said, what women need to be to succeed in a male dominated society. and not in a necessarily active way, but in a way that is literally fused to the fashion industry and culture in general.
and in part it IS what men like as well. and also in part what women actually do like, or what they have grown up needing to like. Just like men need to have an expressed apathy about fashion except for classics for the most part.
i don't think the important thing for men isn't so much that all women are perfect 10s, but rather that they should aspire to that. a woman who refuses to participate in this game of hotness and sexuality is just seen as uncool, hostile, or contrarian.
of course there are both male and female exceptions to this vicious arrangement |
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| srussell0018 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Moral Hazard
BTW, I'm not calling you either, Dude. |
Please, will you? I'm being completely serious and in no way joking. I even didn't give you my phone number and everything, I just thought you'd be able to guess it. Apparently not :( |
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| Halcyon+On+On |
| quote: | Originally posted by nefardec
uncool, hostile, or contrarian. |
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| nefardec |
| quote: | Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
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i agree |
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| srussell0018 |
| quote: | Originally posted by nefardec
srussell has it right - it's more of female interpretations of what men like - better said, what women need to be to succeed in a male dominated society. and not in a necessarily active way, but in a way that is literally fused to the fashion industry and culture in general.
and in part it IS what men like as well. and also in part what women actually do like, or what they have grown up needing to like.
i don't think the important thing for men isn't so much that all women are perfect 10s, but rather that they should aspire to that. a woman who refuses to participate in this game of hotness and sexuality is just seen as uncool, hostile, or contrarian.
of course there are both male and female exceptions to this vicious arrangement |
So are you saying that if the media didn't portray women (or men) in the way that you describe, nobody would aspire to look like that? If people didn't think they were expected to look like models in order to succeed, they would just let themselves go and not care about what they look like? |
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| Moral Hazard |
| quote: | Originally posted by srussell0018
Please, will you? I'm being completely serious and in no way joking. I even didn't give you my phone number and everything, I just thought you'd be able to guess it. Apparently not :( |
You're trying too hard again |
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| srussell0018 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Moral Hazard
You're trying too hard again |
I think you are. |
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| Halcyon+On+On |
| ...and so began the campaign to ensure that Stephen was never invited to Thanksgiving again. |
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