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The complexities of global warming.... solved by a teenager with braces. (pg. 3)
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| infiniteJEST |
| I am a polar bear & am posting this from a mound of icy sludge formerly known as the whore house. Where will I go now? :( |
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| ziptnf |
| quote: | Originally posted by The17sss
If you want to play that game, I can post links to plenty of counter studies by reputable scientists and organizations that expose the flaws in NASA's Goddard Institute's computer models as well as the IPCC bull predictions that never came true. You've bought into the religion and nothing can shake your faith, no matter how much evidence there is to the contrary. So I'm not even going to waste my time debating this with the True Believers of the Church of Warming.
If you have an open mind, which doesn't seem likely in this case, you'll do yourself a favor and at least read this. It's from Climate Scientist and former devotee of the Church David Evans, who just came clean and talked about all the lies and deception happening on the inside, and how the Warmies have basically been had. He acknowledges that the science is not merely in doubt, but false. And he explains why.
http://opinion.financialpost.com/20...models-go-cold/ |
If we're going to play the article game, check out this article from Tim Lambert, where he points out the problems with Evans' position on C02 levels.
http://scienceblogs.com/deltoid/200..._science_16.php
Note the study from the Institute of Chemistry in Germany on the effects of cooling in the stratosphere due to increased C02 levels.
http://www.atmosphere.mpg.de/enid/20c.html
| quote: | Cooling due to the greenhouse effect
The second effect is more complicated. Greenhouse gases (CO2, O3, CFC) absorb infra-red radiation from the surface of the Earth and trap the heat in the troposphere. If this absorption is really strong, the greenhouse gas blocks most of the outgoing infra-red radiation close to the Earth's surface. This means that only a small amount of outgoing infra-red radiation reaches carbon dioxide in the upper troposphere and the lower stratosphere. On the other hand, carbon dioxide emits heat radiation, which is lost from the stratosphere into space. In the stratosphere, this emission of heat becomes larger than the energy received from below by absorption and, as a result, there is a net energy loss from the stratosphere and a resulting cooling. Other greenhouse gases, such as ozone and chlorofluorocarbons (CFC's), have a weaker impact because their concentrations in the troposphere are smaller. They do not entirely block the whole radiation in their wavelength regime so some reaches the stratosphere where it can be absorbed and, as a consequence, heat this region of the atmosphere. |
Cooling in the stratosphere is creating a higher chance of a hole in the Arctic ozone. |
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| Happymess |
| I am completely in favor of Global Warming, anything to make Canadian Winters more bearable. |
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| Ygrene |
| quote: | Originally posted by Meat187
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Global Warming aside, you really do have a nice way with cat pictures. |
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| Meat187 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Ygrene
Global Warming aside, you really do have a nice way with cat pictures. |
I shall name this incredibly rad one Ygrenecat:
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| Silky Johnson |
| Anybody else strokin' a bone right now? |
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| Silky Johnson |
| And did this video make you guys miss Theresa already too? |
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| enydo |
| I love damaging the only home we have just to make a quick buck. I don't care about the future, I just care about my money. Right now. Who cares anyways right? We're all going to be raptured out of here soon so pillage and plunder mother Earth, I don't give a damn. |
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| Meat187 |
| quote: | Originally posted by enydo
I love damaging the only home we have just to make a quick buck. I don't care about the future, I just care about my money. Right now. Who cares anyways right? We're all going to be raptured out of here soon so pillage and plunder mother Earth, I don't give a damn. |
I know that's supposed to be irony, but I actually agree. |
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| Nrg2Nfinit |
| quote: | Originally posted by enydo
I love damaging the only home we have just to make a quick buck. I don't care about the future, I just care about my money. Right now. Who cares anyways right? We're all going to be raptured out of here soon so pillage and plunder mother Earth, I don't give a damn. |
I love how its either one extreme or the other lol. Thats what pisses me off about the global warming hippies. We aren't "destroying" mother earth. im pretty sure that in a couple of hundred of thousand years or so we will be extinct anyways, regardless of how much we pollute or abuse our planet.
Nature always has its ways of dealing with things and turns out that life will prevail in even the most damning of situations. If the K-T extinction didn't kill everything off, i would hardly be worried about global warming. Of course if by mother earth you mean humanity, i think global warming is probably one of the least concerns for the human race.
Some far more pressing issues:
-Overpopulation
-Resistance of natural selection of phenotypic means
-Dependency on specific niches and nutrition
The simplest organisms are usually those who end up prevailing in the game of life. The facts are that we will probably get to the point where we become completely over specialized that the smallest alteration in habitat would probably lead to our extinction.
So we need to be clear here; is this about humanity? the earth? or other organisms inhabiting this planet with us?
If it is any of those options, global warming is really a moot point in the grand scheme of things.
None the less, i do think that we should try to attain a good quality of life for ourselves and the next few generations after us, use moderation in consuming resources and strive for renewables and avoid accentuating carbon emissions.
If the question is why we should do this after all i wrote; It's because the more we change our environment, no matter how minute the change, it will eventually become something that will be a hindrance for us as a species to adapt to. Keep lining those those environmental changes up on the plate and we continue to attribute more towards our dependence specificity. |
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| nchs09 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit
I love how its either one extreme or the other lol. Thats what pisses me off about the global warming hippies. We aren't "destroying" mother earth. im pretty sure that in a couple of hundred of thousand years or so we will be extinct anyways, regardless of how much we pollute or abuse our planet.
Nature always has its ways of dealing with things and turns out that life will prevail in even the most damning of situations. If the K-T extinction didn't kill everything off, i would hardly be worried about global warming. Of course if by mother earth you mean humanity, i think global warming is probably one of the least concerns for the human race.
Some far more pressing issues:
-Overpopulation
-Resistance of natural selection of phenotypic means
-Dependency on specific niches and nutrition
The simplest organisms are usually those who end up prevailing in the game of life. The facts are that we will probably get to the point where we become completely over specialized that the smallest alteration in habitat would probably lead to our extinction.
So we need to be clear here; is this about humanity? the earth? or other organisms inhabiting this planet with us?
If it is any of those options, global warming is really a moot point in the grand scheme of things.
None the less, i do think that we should try to attain a good quality of life for ourselves and the next few generations after us, use moderation in consuming resources and strive for renewables and avoid accentuating carbon emissions.
If the question is why we should do this after all i wrote; It's because the more we change our environment, no matter how minute the change, it will eventually become something that will be a hindrance for us as a species to adapt to. Keep lining those those environmental changes up on the plate and we continue to attribute more towards our dependence specificity. |
We share the earth with thousands of species..... so it does matter. Humans are not the only important thing in this world. |
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