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Wars Cost $4 TRILLION!! (pg. 3)
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| Marcus Summers |
| quote: | Originally posted by srussell0018
Yeah you're right. Private corporations have more to do with the US going to war than the US government does. |
Eisenhower warned us. We did not listen. :( |
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| Tasty Onions |
| Oil and cocks: the two best reasons for war. |
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| Domesticated |
| quote: | Originally posted by srussell0018
I'm sure in the case of Pearl Harbor, you would agree that it was justified that the US go to war with Japan, no? How is this so different aside from Japan being a formal military attacking a military base instead of a terrorist group attacking civilians? |
The difference is that Japan, as a whole country attacked the United States. While 9/11 was a terrible event, it in no way legitimised occupation of two whole countries whose governments never orchestrated, or even condoned those attacks. War is reasonable and inevitable in some cases. Killing thousands of innocent citizens because of a independent terrorist attack is not one of those times.
How would you feel if the IRA set off a bomb in Belfast, and the English retaliated by indiscriminately bombing the suburbs of Dublin? The comparison adequately demonstrates the US' actions in both Afghanistan and Iraq. |
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| DJ RANN |
| quote: | Originally posted by The17sss
$4 trillion is the cost of 1 BUSH budget. Food for thought. |
True that. Especially as he squandered the Clinton surplus.
| quote: | Originally posted by Srussel
Yeah you're right. Private corporations have more to do with the US going to war than the US government does.
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| quote: | Originally posted by GGM
The companies profiting from that spending have more say in this than the actual government imo. So yes it's a large number, yes the money could have been spent better elsewhere, but as corporations do you really thing they're going to admit that instead of going to war? |
Well me sideways - been saying this the entire time but certain numbnuts on here just couldn't fathom it at the time. Kev? Pkc? any thoughts? |
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| Tasty Onions |
Afghanistan didn't really have a "government" at the time. It would be more like if the IRA was dominating Ireland and bombing elsewhere but performing none of the usual functions of a government, and wasn't recognized as a proper government by other countries (as the Taliban was not, by almost all).
Definitely agree on Iraq, though. |
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| ChemEnhanced |
| quote: | Originally posted by Comrade Stalin
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I was thinking more like
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| srussell0018 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Domesticated
The difference is that Japan, as a whole country attacked the United States. While 9/11 was a terrible event, it in no way legitimised occupation of two whole countries whose governments never orchestrated, or even condoned those attacks. War is reasonable and inevitable in some cases. Killing thousands of innocent citizens because of a independent terrorist attack is not one of those times.
How would you feel if the IRA set off a bomb in Belfast, and the English retaliated by indiscriminately bombing the suburbs of Dublin? The comparison adequately demonstrates the US' actions in both Afghanistan and Iraq. |
That's true for Iraq, but it was a commonly known fact that the Taliban regime in Afghanistan was sheltering members of al Qaeda, which was the group who attacked the US. Your IRA analogy works for Iraq, but not Afghanistan.
So basically, what Tasty Onions said.
I also wouldn't say the US has been indiscriminately bombing anything in either of the wars. |
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| Lunar Phase 7 |
So everyone on the planet could be millionaire many times over if they handed the cash out?
bananas. |
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| psymon.d |
| quote: | Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
I was thinking more like
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japans has had a head start
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| Tasty Onions |
| U.S. national debt is $14,000,000,000,000 and climbing, last time I checked. |
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