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Wars Cost $4 TRILLION!! (pg. 8)
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| I still think the US has every right to be in afghanistan. Whether they’re achieving much is debatable, but waging war was the right thing to do imo. |
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| hardcore trancer |
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
I still think the US has every right to be in afghanistan. Whether they’re achieving much is debatable, but waging war was the right thing to do imo. |
How much longer do they get to stay there exactly?10 years?20 years?50 years? Forever? What is their purpose in Afghanistan in 2011?:conf: |
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| srussell0018 |
| quote: | Originally posted by hardcore trancer
How much longer do they get to stay there exactly?10 years?20 years?50 years? Forever? |
Do you watch the news at all you wit? They're already beginning to scale down occupation of the country to focus more on special operations missions and unmanned operations. THEY'RE TOTALLY GONNA STAY THERE FOREVER THOUGH LOL!
You do realize that the type of war being fought in Afghanistan would be like another country invading the US and trying to kill or capture all of the registered Independent voters in the country? It's not as simple as "Oh look, there's one, shoot him!" They're fighting an idealism, not a country. |
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| hardcore trancer |
| quote: | Originally posted by srussell0018
Do you watch the news at all you wit? They're already beginning to scale down occupation of the country to focus more on special operations missions and unmanned operations. THEY'RE TOTALLY GONNA STAY THERE FOREVER THOUGH LOL! |
Are you serious? You are so ing naive kid. Where do you think they will send those troops after? What the are these so called special operations you idiot? Does invading another country count as special operations to you? Lay off the crack bro seriously. :stongue: |
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| yukii |
| quote: | Originally posted by gmilf
The war may cost 4 trillion but that is far cheaper than the cost of not fighting these wars. That's right, I'm talking about freedom. If these wars didn't happen I wouldn't have the freedom to operate my oversized SUV at an unsafe speed while cranking up the air conditioner and dumping oil out of my open windows like it's a mother ing episode of Mario Cart. I wouldn't have the freedom to call every towel head a towel head if these wars never happened and an entire portion of the world and sect of religion became demonized, and you just know those ******s deserve it. Living in the sand like some Southern California without having to pay those outrageous rents. Damn straight this war was a good idea. If it wasn't for this war my brothers think tank would have to be thinking up ways to destroy some country in South America. South America?! I get my cigars from there! We need to fight these wars to save my cigar. |
i wish this could be my sig. its so retarded its hilarious. |
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| srussell0018 |
| quote: | Originally posted by hardcore trancer
Are you serious? You are so ing naive kid. Where do you think they will send those troops after? What the are these so called special operations you idiot? Does invading another country count as special operations to you? Lay off the crack bro seriously. :stongue: |
Interesting. Your lack of any central argument other than positing ridiculous questions which you could easily find the answer to yourself, and shouting inane personal insults is very intriguing. I see that 50% of the sentences in your post contained ad hominem attacks, while 0% of them have presented any counter arguments to anything that I said. Could this be because you haven't actually "said" anything at all? I also find the complete lack of anything resembling a "fact" in any of your posts as of yet to be truly fascinating and quite crucial to your strategy of proving that you are probably one of the most unintelligent people to have posted in this thread. Cary on with your demonstrable encyclopedic knowledge of US foreign policy with an emphasis on military operations in Afghanistan, though. It's quite impressive. |
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| gmilf |
they scaled down by 30,000 troops. It's a complete joke. They are scaling down the amount of people the same week they upped the amount of weapons going into the country. This joke of a war was correctly summarized as fighting an idea. How dumb is this?! Fight an idea by sending in our lowest educated and least culturally sensitive who is authorized to use deadly force at their personal discretion.
Yes, the conditions prior to our occupation of afghanistan were terrible. But, to think that the best approach is war is idiotic at best. The Taliban gained power by being the only ones who were offering food and education then they shaped the country to their will and oppressed the people using religion and brute force. Why not just send defensive only troops in and pump all of that money into their schools and basic infrastructure. They wouldn't even need to directly fight the idea. The troops needed would be much less, therefore they could be a much higher caliber than what are currently there. And, their only job would be to make sure the aid gets to the right place.
Edit- piss poor grammar on my part, sorry about that! |
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| EddieZilker |
| quote: | Originally posted by hardcore trancer
Are you serious? You are so ing naive kid. Where do you think they will send those troops after? What the are these so called special operations you idiot? Does invading another country count as special operations to you? Lay off the crack bro seriously. :stongue: |
You're either trolling or you're just out of your depth. It's called discretionary warfare, you nimrod, and it's been going on for quite a while. |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by hardcore trancer
How much longer do they get to stay there exactly?10 years?20 years?50 years? Forever? What is their purpose in Afghanistan in 2011?:conf: |
I don’t have an answer to that. I guess as long as the afghani government wants them there. All I was stating though is I think an invasion was an acceptable response to the 2001 attacks. |
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| srussell0018 |
| quote: | Originally posted by gmilf
Yes, the conditions prior to our occupation of afghanistan were terrible. But, to think that the best approach is war is idiotic at best. The Taliban gained power by being the only ones who were offering food and education then they shaped the country to their will and oppressed the people using religion and brute force. Why not just send defensive only troops in and pump all of that money into their schools and basic infrastructure. They wouldn't even need to directly fight the idea. The troops needed would be much less, therefore they could be a much higher caliber than what are currently there. And, their only job would be to make sure the aid gets to the right place. |
Defensive only troops? So you're suggesting they should have stationed troops around the country and just waited to be attacked? Don't you think if the US was funding schools and/or infrastructure, that the Taliban would have attacked that? What you're describing sounds an awful lot like what's happening right now. Much less troops, check. Higher caliber troops, check. The US military isn't occupying Afghanistan to provide aid to its people. Their aid to the people was the removal of the Taliban regime. You're making some decent points, but I think you're misunderstanding the role that the US military is playing in Afghanistan as they are now. |
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| Lews |
| I think invading Afghanistan was good idea and justified. Invading Iraq was ing stupid as hell, though. |
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| gmilf |
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
I don’t have an answer to that. I guess as long as the afghani government wants them there. All I was stating though is I think an invasion was an acceptable response to the 2001 attacks. |
I will not argue that the response was unwarranted. However, I am curious if you think that the reason the US attacked in 2001 is as relevant as it is today, since a lot of the same people are still around and kicking that were a part of the organization back then? Or, is the reason we went over finished and we are working on another objective now? |
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