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Sexuality/Gender Norms (pg. 17)
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| Vector A |
| Seriously, when two guys go into confrontation mode all I can think of are a couple of gorillas facing off in the highlands, beating their chests. |
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| Paradox Lost |
| Maybe because we're accustomed to believing that matters of consequence, and the physical confrontations they supposedly warrant, pertain only to men, resulting in fights between women being mere visual amusements. |
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| Vector A |
| quote: | Originally posted by nefardec
let's talk about narratives and values though. in other words, how would a movie exec look at it? :haha: |
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| nefardec |
| quote: | Originally posted by Paradox Lost
Maybe because we're accustomed to believing that matters of consequence, and the physical confrontations they supposedly warrant, pertain only to men, resulting in fights between women being mere visual amusements. |
that is the implication. femininity is in general relegated to frivolity. even some feminists see classical 'feminine' expressions as frivolous. whereas I think the key is to own that kind expression and challenge the notion that it is inherently frivolous.
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It's worth mentioning though that when it comes to marketing, especially to women, masculinity is presented as frivolous. |
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| Joss Weatherby |
| quote: | Originally posted by nefardec
it's the same double standard you see if men fight it's somehow about honor, but if women fight it's automatically "OMGCATFIGHT!!!", something to be laughed at. |
No, both fight over honor, its just females seem to have their honor scorned more deeply than men do.
Women just tend to hold grudges a lot longer and not use any sort of logic to maybe reassess the situation at a later point. |
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| prolikewhoa |
| quote: | Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
No, both fight over honor, its just females seem to have their honor scorned more deeply than men do.
Women just tend to hold grudges a lot longer and not use any sort of logic to maybe reassess the situation at a later point. |
like you're an expert on women :stongue: |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by nefardec
it's the same double standard you see if men fight it's somehow about honor, but if women fight it's automatically "OMGCATFIGHT!!!", something to be laughed at. |
It's not "automatically" anything. If two girls are having a fight where real physical damage is being inflicted, it'll be broken up as quickly as possible. And then I've seen men have pathetic cat fights that were the source of much mirth. Prosaic fact is most girls can't fight, and it's quite funny to watch an incredibly emotional and serious activity where neither of the participants have a ing clue what they're doing. |
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| prolikewhoa |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
It's not "automatically" anything. If two girls are having a fight where real physical damage is being inflicted, it'll be broken up as quickly as possible. And then I've seen men have pathetic cat fights that were the source of much mirth. Prosaic fact is most girls can't fight, and it's quite funny to watch an incredibly emotional and serious activity where neither of the participants have a ing clue what they're doing. |
or when one does and one doesn't. there's something fascinating about it. i think that's why i watch the bad girl's club. guilty pleasure. |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| No, when one person knows how to fight and the other doesn't, that isn't funny. That's brutal. |
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| Halcyon+On+On |
| Right - funny. |
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| nefardec |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
It's not "automatically" anything. If two girls are having a fight where real physical damage is being inflicted, it'll be broken up as quickly as possible. And then I've seen men have pathetic cat fights that were the source of much mirth. Prosaic fact is most girls can't fight, and it's quite funny to watch an incredibly emotional and serious activity where neither of the participants have a ing clue what they're doing. |
yeah, and what do they say about those men?
'they fight like girls' |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| Yeah, because most girls can't fight. |
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