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| prolikewhoa |
| quote: | Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
But their marketing for flavored cigs targeted children. How else do you convince an industry like the tobacco industry to not sell to children, especially when it was corporate policy in almost all of them to do just that, with out legislating it?
Think of banning flavored cigs as a punitive measure against the tobacco industry, they had a product that was pretty much intended to be a turn on for young children (even if adults enjoyed them) and they marketed it in such a way that children would know about them. |
why do you punish the consumer, though? why is sheesha is going to remain legal, flavored the same way these cigarettes were? the stores who distribute the products are directly responsible for who they sell it to. it is on them that the responsibility to properly id consumers is placed, not the manufacturer. |
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| Dreyth |
I only read about the first 10 posts in this thread, but:
I don't think this law is made to prevent smokers from smoking. It's made to prevent non-smokers from becoming smokers. |
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| prolikewhoa |
| quote: | Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
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child pornography is not a victimless crime because children have not reached the age of consent. i am only talking about activities between one or more consenting adults. |
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| Joss Weatherby |
| quote: | Originally posted by prolikewhoa
child pornography is not a victimless crime because children have not reached the age of consent. i am only talking about activities between one or more consenting adults. |
You obviously didn't even begin to understand what I said. |
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| UWM |
| That's probably because you made no point whatsoever. And, furthermore, if you're arguing that child pornography and drug use are victimless then you are even a bigger bellend than I thought before. |
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| Halcyon+On+On |
| quote: | Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
But their marketing for flavored cigs targeted children. |
What the hell? You mean like flavoured cigarillos? So much bull, haha. |
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| Joss Weatherby |
| quote: | Originally posted by UWM
That's probably because you made no point whatsoever. And, furthermore, if you're arguing that child pornography and drug use are victimless then you are even a bigger bellend than I thought before. |
How who is the victim if someone possesses a picture of a crime and they were not present at the crime, or even alive when the crime occurred. Who is the victim?
Producing it has victims, but where is it in possession? |
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| Halcyon+On+On |
Well it's a rather heinous and taboo crime, by our modern standards. That's why most governments have zero tolerance for it.
Should citizens be allowed to own nuclear weapons, so long as they promise to never, ever commit any crimes with them? Well it depends on who you ask, but the correct answer is no. |
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| prolikewhoa |
| quote: | Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
You obviously didn't even begin to understand what I said. |
oh i did, your point was just idiotic. if the production is a crime with victims, why would distribution change it to a victimless crime? just because the pervert had no role in making the actual child pornography doesn't make ownership of it any less criminal. the harm comes from the lack of consent of the children in the video. if they were consenting adults, and had signed away the right of the production company to distribute the footage, that's fine. it's not rocket science. child pornography = crime. |
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| Halcyon+On+On |
| This is a recurring subject with Nou, because he is a former child porn star and has a difficult time getting over his glory days. :p |
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| Joss Weatherby |
| quote: | Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
Should citizens be allowed to own nuclear weapons, so long as they promise to never, ever commit any crimes with them? Well it depends on who you ask, but the correct answer is no. |
Pictures don't annihilate cities. |
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| UWM |
| You really are this stupid, aren't you. It's not an act. |
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