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Is Rob Ford doing a good job? (pg. 3)
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| quote: | Originally posted by smuncky
sounds like you're a latte sipping socialist. |
me? try rob ford. he's the guy charging you and me 4x what he should be.
buys a lot 'o' lattes from what i hear, though i don't drink coffee so i'll take your word on the latte thing. |
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| quote: | Originally posted by feelgood
Forget the business cards, youre telling me my tax dollars pay for a 30k expense account for each councillor? You gotta be ing kidding me. |
paper costs money for one. i'm pretty sure they use that stuff in their job. that or really really expensive business card stock; depends on the councillor. |
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| quote: | Originally posted by -g-
me? try rob ford. he's the guy charging you and me 4x what he should be.
buys a lot 'o' lattes from what i hear, though i don't drink coffee so i'll take your word on the latte thing. |
joking btw! |
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$0.06-$0.07 each is not the going rate for decent cards? I actually don't know - I'm curious how you came to this conclusion.... |
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| Aside from politics the guy is a real bitch. Calling 911 on CBC? lol |
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| quote: | Originally posted by DeleteFromUsers
$0.06-$0.07 each is not the going rate for decent cards? I actually don't know - I'm curious how you came to this conclusion.... |
Nope, and esp. not in that volume.
Ex. Matlow got his for a little over a penny a card, and he ordered only 3000 cards.
Source? same resource and expense receipts that every councillor is required to submit.
And this quite apart from the illegal practice of not obtaining competitive bids for such purchases, not to mention the lack of transparency in just essentially paying yourself 4x the going rate courtesy of the taxpayers of toronto.
oh wait, didn't he promise greater transparency in addition to this gravy nonsense? yeah, yeah he did....
Anyway, this was news late friday, which is prob why it's not in alot of papers... yet.
I would be very surprised if it wasn't more of a story starting tomorrow. |
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| quote: | Originally posted by DeleteFromUsers
Not only is he breaking promises - he lied during his campaign. Just because they all lie doesn't mean we should not on every m****r f***ing one of them! |
You're absolutely right.
I guess the point I was getting at is that when Leftist politicians promise to balance a budget without raising taxes, and then raise taxes. The media hails them as tough decision-makers. But when a politician on the right claims they will balance the budget without cuts, and then cut services, they are vilified.
I would just appreciate some balance from the media, without having to read the Sun, then read the Star, then decide that the truth lies somewhere in the middle. |
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| quote: | Originally posted by Spam
You're absolutely right.
I guess the point I was getting at is that when Leftist politicians promise to balance a budget without raising taxes, and then raise taxes. The media hails them as tough decision-makers. But when a politician on the right claims they will balance the budget without cuts, and then cut services, they are vilified.
I would just appreciate some balance from the media, without having to read the Sun, then read the Star, then decide that the truth lies somewhere in the middle. |
but let's not forget that he has also gone on record to say that he will actually raise taxes.
(source: http://www.torontosun.com/2011/07/1...r-on-3-tax-hike)
and there's the rub: he lies both ways - about not cutting services and then about not raising taxes, and perhaps most damningly, the very amount of the deficit(actually a surplus) left to him in the first place.
couple that with a man who has repeatedly lied, cajoled, and shown a profound misunderstanding of the job itself, and people of all stripes have a right to be disappointed and downright furious. |
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| quote: | Originally posted by -g-
but let's not forget that he has also gone on record to say that he will actually raise taxes.
(source: http://www.torontosun.com/2011/07/1...r-on-3-tax-hike)
and there's the rub: he lies both ways - about not cutting services and then about not raising taxes, and perhaps most damningly, the very amount of the deficit(actually a surplus) left to him in the first place.
couple that with a man who has repeatedly lied, cajoled, and shown a profound misunderstanding of the job itself, and people of all stripes have a right to be disappointed and downright furious. |
The deficit being claimed is for 2012, we've known 2011 would be a surplus for a long time now because of the (I think) added revenue from the land transfer tax. I'm actually not aware that Ford has ever claimed 2011 would be a deficit year, but I wasn't paying that much attention to the 2011 budget, because I've always been aware that the large deficit being claimed is for 2012. |
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| quote: | Originally posted by feelgood
Forget the business cards, youre telling me my tax dollars pay for a 30k expense account for each councillor? You gotta be ing kidding me. |
It use to be higher then 30k before Ford came along |
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| quote: | Originally posted by DeleteFromUsers
$0.06-$0.07 each is not the going rate for decent cards? I actually don't know - I'm curious how you came to this conclusion.... |
High quality business cards are going to cost between $0.10 to $0.15 per card if you are buying 500. I really don't think the $0.06 to $0.07 per card is overpriced for the quantity being bought. |
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| quote: | Originally posted by -g-
Nope, and esp. not in that volume.
Ex. Matlow got his for a little over a penny a card, and he ordered only 3000 cards.
Source? same resource and expense receipts that every councillor is required to submit.
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most of the Councillors are getting their cards through the city for approximately $0.05 per card. My question would be why does Matlow need 3000 business cards when most Councillors are only getting 500. There are some Councillors who are spending over $0.27 per card. |
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