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Liebing is back (pg. 5)
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| zeKsg |
| Montreal is great for what it is. |
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| ~*Stereohead*~ |
| fair enough, i guess myself and the organizers see it differently. i mean, i know population plays a huge role, but it's really not the end-all to all things...that's all i was trying to get across. mtl's scene used to be considered way better than nyc's scene a mere few years ago. so, what happened? gonna blame it on population? discuss! |
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| zyklon-jay |
| kids today think that dance music is skrillex, Rhianna, Chris brown and so on, and they don't need to go to afters to hear what they like. It's sad but true. Bottles over boogie has been taking over every city. |
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| zyklon-jay |
| quote: | Originally posted by zeKsg
Montreal is great for what it is. |
best answer you have ever given.
for it's size Montreal is better than any other city in north America with the same population in regards to electronic music. |
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| technoaddict |
| quote: | Originally posted by zyklon-jay
kids today think that dance music is skrillex, Rhianna, Chris brown and so on, and they don't need to go to afters to hear what they like. It's sad but true. Bottles over boogie has been taking over every city. |
its kind of better like this, segregates the crowds and party atmosphere, although it would be cool to have lots of people at the more "underground" parties. anyways liebing should be dope |
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| The Highroller |
| quote: | Originally posted by ~*Stereohead*~
fair enough, i guess myself and the organizers see it differently. i mean, i know population plays a huge role, but it's really not the end-all to all things...that's all i was trying to get across. mtl's scene used to be considered way better than nyc's scene a mere few years ago. so, what happened? |
I think two things are at play here. Firstly, our scene (house, techno and trance) in North America has largely failed to attract younger audiences. Dance music is extremely popular these days among youth in North America (far more popular than I can ever remember), but they are interested in hearing stuff like Skrillex and Sweedish House Mafia. I would venture to say that this is why attendance has dwindled at house and techno events across North America during the past 10 years. The older generation gets tired of going out, and there are fewer younger partiers to take their place.
The other factor, which is related to the first one, is that comparing Stereo attendance on a weekly basis to Blkmrkt and Verboten is not a fair comparison, because AFAIK these parties aren't weeklies; they're monthlies or even less frequent. It is difficult to build a regular crowd at a place like Stereo, because it comes down to the fact that most people cannot stay up until 9 or 10 in the morning every weekend. For an afterhours, especially one the size of Stereo, you need a fairly large regular crowd, because chances are most people are going to go once or twice a month at most.
With the aforementioned popularity of Igloofest, Piknic, BeB and BnB, the opportunity to build a regular crowd at afterhours is there. There is obviously a large market of people who like dance music, but afterhours promoters need to find a way to bridge the gap. When I went to Montreal a couple of months ago to visit friends who weren't into dance music, I made it a point to ask as many people I could if they had heard of Piknic, BeB, etc, just to get a feel on what "regular people's" knowledge of the scene was in Montreal. Most of them had heard of BeB, Piknic, BnB, Igloo, and a good number of them had even attended one of these events. However, not a single person had heard of Stereo, which was surprising. Although this is only anecdotal evidence, this just goes to show that afterhours in Montreal have work to do to tap into the huge market of people who are clearly interested in this type of music. |
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| Ravemontreal |
I have been to NYC many times and went to see Ben Klock at Billmarket recently, wasn't impressed at all (attendance, sound quality, vibe...)
That's my opinion. Considering the size of the city, maybe it's getting better, but still, I don't feel EDM is really big there.... |
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| ~*Stereohead*~ |
lol max :)
as far as frequency of parties goes, i know verboten usually tries for 3 out of 4 weekends, but blkmrkt i'm rly not sure how often they throw events, although i do get a lot of fb invites from them.
highroller: you don't think trance in north america has attracted a younger audience? really? i thought the complete opposite was true lol..but it's cool to hear different perspectives :) this is what i thought: if you're into Skrillex and SHM, chances are you're gonna come across Armin's name (and other top 20 trance djs) eventually, no? they all fall into the same popularity category...same cookie cutter being pitched to the same demographic...the ppl in that demographic are bound to stumble upon it...i'm not saying they will necessarily like trance, but i rly think that it happens more often than not...
trance talk in a liebing thread :nervous: lol |
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| zyklon-jay |
| trance isn't even really trance anymore. trance now just means cheesy and fast music with a supersaw and gay vocals....not that much different than shm. |
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| WittyHandle |
| quote: | Originally posted by zyklon-jay
for it's size Montreal is better than any other city in north America with the same population in regards to electronic music. |
Wow, a statement of yours I can agree with sans caveats.
And I think trance has been on the way out in the EDM mainstream for a while now. SHM & Avicii are leading the new pop wave, and anyone clinging on to the glowsticks will soon find them out of juice. |
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| zeKsg |
In my personal opinion rather kids listen to Armin then Skrillex, lol that barely resembles music.
So who is going this friday, I am sure somebody is curious to hear Liebing destroy that system. |
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