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shitty people leave shitty tips - especially if you're a banker (pg. 3)
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| Lira |
| quote: | Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
I say just pay the staff more and be done with tipping. I would rather pay a little more for my food and let the wait staff have a proper wage. |
Fixed. And this is why I think tipping does more harm than good.
Unless the laws are different where you live, tipping is a very informal transaction - you give the money "off the record", so to speak, without tax deduction and the like. Instead of contributing to the worker's social security, among other things, you "do charity" to a worker that definitely deserves better conditions. |
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| malek |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lira
Fixed. And this is why I think tipping does more harm than good.
Unless the laws are different where you live, tipping is a very informal transaction - you give the money "off the record", so to speak, without tax deduction and the like. Instead of contributing to the worker's social security, among other things, you "do charity" to a worker that definitely deserves better conditions. |
Well it's different here, they have to divulge how much tip they have recieved and pay income tax on it. It's not charity, it's a job. |
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| ChemEnhanced |
| quote: | Originally posted by srussell0018
So you think the people who hand deliver your food to your table while you quiver so slightly in anticipation of shoveling it into your gaping maw deserve nothing more than minimum wage? |
They deserve at least the same minimum wage that the person at Best Buy gets or the person who cleans the toilets in my office building. |
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| OrangestO |
The only harm that tipping brings is that it's not stable. One week you'll break bank, while the next you get . It all depends on the area, business, season, etc. Budgeting and knowing when to spend can be tricky because there isn't a set income to rely on.
EDIT: Minimum wage isn't exactly the solution either. Paying someone in the hospitality industry the same wages, when quality of service varies among who takes care of you, takes away the incentive to break your back for the customer in hopes you'll get a great tip. |
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| Lira |
| quote: | Originally posted by malek
Well it's different here, they have to divulge how much tip they have recieved and pay income tax on it. It's not charity, it's a job. |
Good to know, our legal system seems to profit over the lack of political power (and education) of these workers. What's the advantage, in this case, over having a steady income though? Surely there are bad times just like there are good times, so I wonder what the rationale is under this legislature. |
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| LeopoldStotch |
| quote: | Originally posted by Trancealot
Bars: 1$ or 2$ per drink.
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this is one of the few things I hate when I'm out and about and get a quick drink. I feel kinda ty leaving a $1-$2 tip for a drink because I think it's too small then I think about it and figure I am tipping close to 20% so it's decent. i think about getting another drink, but figure I should just stop at 1.
cool story bro. |
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| colonelcrisp |
A tip is my way of rewarding people for being good at what they do and humiliating those that suck. I will tip 25%+ for excellent service, and i have been known to leave a penny and a note if its brutal.
My biggest pet peeve is the notion that everyone deserves a tip. that's horse crap, If im going out for a buffet im not tipping you because you brought me the check at the end of the meal, nor am i tipping in any restaurant with a drive thru.
Im not a scrooge by any means but if you deliver ty service, you are most likely to get a penny and a harassing comment from me than a 15% gratuity. |
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| Blake |
| 20% is indeed standard. 15% was standard maybe 5 years ago. I usually aim for 20%-25%. |
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| Yohan |
20% is the normal? jeez. I must have missed that note. usually I tip 15%. sometimes less or more pending on service
speaking of tips, where else do you tip, other than restaurants and bars? |
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| srussell0018 |
| Any time someone provides you with an individual service. Valets, chambermaids, delivery people, etc. |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by Yohan
speaking of tips, where else do you tip, other than restaurants and
bars? |
Casinos. If I win £100 in a hand of poker, I'll tip the dealer a couple of quid. this standardised tipping though. I'm glad the UK doesn't have a big tipping culture. You're working a minimum wage job, you earn minimum wage. Try working in a factory if you think being a bar tender or a waitress is hard work. Tips are recognition of particularly good customer service. When tips become mandatory, there's no incentive for anyone to provide good service. |
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| Vector A |
Many tipped workers here earn far below minimum wage, as low as ~$2 per hour in some places. That is why we have a big tipping culture.
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