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shitty people leave shitty tips - especially if you're a banker (pg. 4)
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| Swamper |
I used to date a server that would always complain about ppl who tipped 15% on the pre-tax amount versus 20% on the after tax amount.
$90 bill (before tax) + 15% tip ($13.50) + 15% tax = $117
$90 bill + 15% tax = $103.50 + 20% tip ($20.70) = $124.20 |
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| srussell0018 |
| If a factory worker brought my shoe to me and put it on my foot, I'd probably tip them too. |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by Vector A
Many tipped workers here earn far below minimum wage, as low as ~$2 per hour in some places. That is why we have a big tipping culture.
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Minimum wage is a legal requirement here. If you're being paid by the hour, you must be paid minimum wage. |
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| tubularbills |
| quote: | Originally posted by dj_alfi
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and why do you say that?
i personally hate tipping. its lost all meaning to me. tip here, tip there, then you have ADDITIONAL tip lines on some places. seriously? really lame. |
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| Lira |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
When tips become mandatory, there's no incentive for anyone to provide good service. |
This. |
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| Lunar Phase 7 |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Casinos. If I win £100 in a hand of poker, I'll tip the dealer a couple of quid. this standardised tipping though. I'm glad the UK doesn't have a big tipping culture. You're working a minimum wage job, you earn minimum wage. Try working in a factory if you think being a bar tender or a waitress is hard work. Tips are recognition of particularly good customer service. When tips become mandatory, there's no incentive for anyone to provide good service. |
I'm with this prick on here. |
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| Moral Hazard |
| quote: | Originally posted by tubularbills
do you know what "TIPS" was actually originally an acronym for?
Totally Im-Promtu Service. |
Did you know that you are entirely incorrect? Tip meaning a gratuity is derived from the 17th century use of the word tip meaning to give or to hand, which in turn came from a german word that meant to tap.
Logically "totally impromptu service" makes no sense as the service is being offered regularly and in a wholey expected manner... not the product of spontaneous improvisation as the term impromptu would suggest. Moreover, the term "tip" for a gratuity has been in use since the 1700s whereas the term impromptu didn't exist until 1817 and then was exclusively used to describe music for a hundred or so years. |
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| Moral Hazard |
| Personally, I'd rather tipping be abolished and servers be paid a proper wage... which of course would be result in an upward adjustment of prices. |
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| srussell0018 |
| Yes. Abolish tipping and have all waiters/waitresses be paid the same wage regardless of how well they perform their jobs. Sounds promising. |
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| colonelcrisp |
| quote: | Originally posted by srussell0018
Yes. Abolish tipping and have all waiters/waitresses be paid the same wage regardless of how well they perform their jobs. Sounds promising. |
people don't tip the trash man yet your garbage still gets picked up every week..... |
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| Lira |
| quote: | Originally posted by srussell0018
Yes. Abolish tipping and have all waiters/waitresses be paid the same wage regardless of how well they perform their jobs. Sounds promising. |
Is this how it works in other occupations? There are loads of ways to reward hard-working employees. You can give them a gratification for tables served, for one, which may be deducted from one's wage if there are complaints. |
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| srussell0018 |
I'd think the instant gratification and monetary gain of getting a good tip would be a better motivator. The only problem with this is I believe it's customary for a lot of restaurants in America to pool tips, which makes no sense at all.
Your system sounds good in theory, but I think people are more likely to leave a smaller tip for bad service than they are to go out of their way and complain. I think that system would be more of an incentive to provide "good enough" service, since people would most likely also be less likely to go out of their way to praise the service. |
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