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Euro 2012 (pg. 28)
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| DJ RANN |
| quote: | Originally posted by srussell0018
lol you're pathetic bro.
You're a massive faggot.
According to you I never said "You're a faggot."
Totally different sentences. |
As I said, don't get sore, just learn to read and comprehend biarch.
I've already shown you your error, but if you really want me to spell it out again I can keep going:
"Italy had 65% possssion against England and did nothing with it."
I.E. Score or better still win in normal plus extra time. As explained in that very sentence, they didn't do anything with that possession, it was down to penalties.
Now this *(which I never said)*....
"Italy "did nothing" against England"
....Would negate: the 30 goal attempts or the 20 on target, control of the vast majority of possession or superior ball control, OR THE FACT THEY ING WON THE GAME, all of which I have alluded to in this thread prior to your bull.
So again, learn to ing read - there's a reason someone is specific with language and sentence formation, something that you just can't pass through that impenetrable (with exception to entry) lead barrier known as your skull. |
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| srussell0018 |
Make your post longer next time.
And with more caps. |
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| Fledz |
Germany didn't show up. Italy played well but Germany had a bad game and they got done. It's as simple as that. It happens.
Stop arguing other stupid and pray to whoever or whatever you believe in that we get a decent final, because there's massive potential for it to be ing awful. |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ RANN
"Italy had 65% possssion against England and did nothing with it". Is what i wrote.
Is not the same sentence "Italy "did nothing" against England", which as you can see from the quote marks, I didn't even write in the first place. |
So when exactly were you suggesting Italy did something against England? When they didn't have possession? Would it help if I specified "in possession" to my statement to remove your petty pedantry and reveal the naked fallacy of your actual point? Because I'll gladly amend that if it's what it takes.
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ RANN
The rest is woulda, coulda, shoulda rubbish about the England game. If Rooney had scored that overhead bicycle he'd be knighted by now and the team would have played differently. |
Don't talk . Not only was Rooney's bicycle kick wildly over the bar and into low Earth orbit, it was a fleeting chance that was very much a minority. The Italians systematically controlled the match. They won the tactical battle, they dictated the terms of the game, they created twice as many chances, and De Rossi's shot was literally millimetres away from going in, unlike a snatched bicycle kick effort which went miles away from the goal. It's not like it was an even game where marginal chances were 50/50. Italy absolutely bossed England for most of 120 minutes and every commentator and pundit agreed it would be a footballing travesty if Italy didn't go through. You've basically overlooked the prescient feature of the game (the quality of Italy's play) in favour of the bare scoreline, divorced of context, and your consistently predictions in this thread pretty much underline the errror of your reasoning.
And although I didn't exactly shout "Italy 2-1!" before the game, I'll quote you a Facebook conversation I had the afternoon before the match that shows I at least knew the semi-final was a tight affair, just to prove I'm not a retroactively smug bastard. (I can screen-cap the conversation if you're daft enough to think I'm inventing this extract.)
| quote: | Josh D***
footttbbaaaalll
score prediction
Jack Moss
oh, very tough game to call
Germany have never beaten Italy in 7 competitive internationals
even though they look a much better team, history is against them
Josh D***
Thursday
i'm gunna put my neck out and say 3-1 Germany
Jack Moss
Thursday
I doubt there'll be that many goals
Italy look fairly solid defensively, only conceded 2 in 4 games
I think it'll be 1-0
but I'm not sure who to...
Josh D***
Thursday
nope
germans will show us what they're capable of tonight i think
Jack Moss
Thursday
hmmm
we'll see |
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| DJ RANN |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
So when exactly were you suggesting Italy did something against England? When they didn't have possession? Would it help if I specified "in possession" to my statement to remove your petty pedantry and reveal the naked fallacy of your actual point? Because I'll gladly amend that if it's what it takes.
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No, and there's no need to try to make it so black and white. Not that I need to spell it out as the game and England's pretty lackluster performance speaks for itself, but Italy controlled the game in every aspect (with exception to the first 20 minutes then England's two solitary on-goal attacks), made Hart make a number of edge of your seat saves (actually close than a dozen), not to mention the same number of last-man-in-defence body blocks (I counted 4 from Terry alone). It was like the ing alamo.
I can't tell you the number of times I heard Andy Townsend say "If they can just keep hanging on....".
My point, that you can't seem to grasp, was that for all England's faults during that match, including a complete lack of attack and terrible passing skills, that Italy did not convert any of those 87+mins of their possession, or 30 attack movement in to a single goal.
Keep arguing all you want, but that's the cold hard truth. They did nothing with all that possession.....and that's why:
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Don't talk . Not only was Rooney's bicycle kick wildly over the bar and into low Earth orbit, it was a fleeting chance that was very much a minority. The Italians systematically controlled the match. They won the tactical battle, they dictated the terms of the game, they created twice as many chances, and De Rossi's shot was literally millimetres away from going in, unlike a snatched bicycle kick effort which went miles away from the goal. It's not like it was an even game where marginal chances were 50/50. Italy absolutely bossed England for most of 120 minutes and every commentator and pundit agreed it would be a footballing travesty if Italy didn't go through. You've basically overlooked the prescient feature of the game (the quality of Italy's play) in favour of the bare scoreline, divorced of context, and your consistently predictions in this thread pretty much underline the errror of your reasoning.
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Wat? We're saying the same damn thing? See above and everything I posted so far, but my whole point, regardless of it had been a travesty or complete lack of justice, it doesn't mean if you don't score.....and that's the only reason I raised the Roony point - If he, by some miracle had made it the bottom line is that Germany would have played England, but it's all woulda, coulda, shoulda. Gte it now?
Again, to clarify, England could have just as easily won the penalty shootout and all that Italy possession and control throughout the match would have meant absolutely all. And you know that can happen in football, regardless of whether it's right or fitting for the ultimate winner. That's why it's perfectly logical to say Italy did nothing with that possession. They didn't ing score and it was like watching the alamo.
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
And although I didn't exactly shout "Italy 2-1!" before the game, I'll quote you a Facebook conversation I had the afternoon before the match that shows I at least knew the semi-final was a tight affair, just to prove I'm not a retroactively smug bastard. (I can screen-cap the conversation if you're daft enough to think I'm inventing this extract.) |
Well, firstly, without access to your facebook page, that could so easily be a fabrication, but I'll give you the benefit, I don't believe you'd make something up and I'll say well done - You had it picked better than every bookmaker (including the Italian ones) and professional sports journalist going in.
(The final odds of germany making it to the final, just prior to kick off were: 20/21, not to mention, Italy had their last 3 straight games prior to the tournament. Credit to them for doing it).
I hope you took a bet on them from the outset! |
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| Lira |
The only way England would be better prepared to defeat Italy was if Balotelli played for an English club. And made the rules of the game.
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| srussell0018 |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ RANN
My point, that you can't seem to grasp, was that for all England's faults during that match, including a complete lack of attack and terrible passing skills, that Italy did not convert any of those 87+mins of their possession, or 30 attack movement in to a single goal. |
No, your original point was that Italy had been "pretty ing poor" in their previous games and the way they played against Germany "was not the same performance as any of their previous torney games", so to now agree that Italy dominated England and were extremely unlucky pretty much butchers your original assertion. They played the same tactics and almost exactly the same players, and the difference in scoreline was down to marginal moments in the two matches.
| quote: | | Well, firstly, without access to your facebook page, that could so easily be a fabrication, but I'll give you the benefit, I don't believe you'd make something up and I'll say well done - You had it picked better than every bookmaker (including the Italian ones) and professional sports journalist going in. |
Like I said, I can screen-cap the conversation if proof is needed, and if I was going to lie I'd make it more unequivocal. I wasn't going to bet on it because I honestly didn't know who would win, I just knew it'd be a hell of a lot tighter than most people seemed to think. |
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| DOOMBOT |
| I'm watching the replay of the Brazil vs Argentina match from earlier this month to get my soccer fix for the night. I'm excited for tomorrow and this match is definitely holding me over until then. |
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| zyklon-jay |
| I've painted one nut green and one nut red. If Italy wins I'm going to be obnoxious like all of the other dagos....except I'll be wearing way too short daisy duke cutoffs. i'll be a shoe in for the annual axe body spray show your guido competition. Needless to say, finding a safe way to light a flare protruding from your urethra is good for style points, but if it goes gabagoul you gonna end up like a cheenaise. |
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| Penalba |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ RANN
Jack doesn't need you to hold his dick while he pisses |
Do you mean to imply that Jack is pissing on you? |
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