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An audacious campaign to bring about an underground renaissance. (pg. 4)
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zyklon-jay
"Let's get everything underground again by creating a new popularity contest!"

Let's see if you can figure out the sarcasm in this.

Trance ruins the brain, it's hilarious.
SYSTEM-J
If you genuinely think voting Paris Hilton to #1 on the DJ Mag poll will "bring about an underground renaissance", you are mindblowingly stupid.
zyklon-jay
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Originally posted by Vector A
As I recall it, Oakenfold was rather fond of dropping U2 records (or his remixes of them) and even went on tour with them. If that's not "commercial" I don't know what is.


Not to mention he was signing and producing huge mainstream acts at that time too. He only dj'ed because he was bored. I can relate as he is really ing boring.
Time4change
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Originally posted by zyklon-jay
"Let's get everything underground again by creating a new popularity contest!"

Let's see if you can figure out the sarcasm in this.

Trance ruins the brain, it's hilarious.


I see the sarcasm, but it's you that's missing something. Changing the rules changes how popularity, and (particularly) marketing influence the poll.
Sykonee
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Originally posted by Time4change
I disagree. I'm looking forward, not back. This is starting to spread on twitter quite rapidly, and has been shared by a few DJs you'll all have heard of. This is about harnessing the resentment in the hope we don't have as much to bitch about in future. Failing once doesn't mean you don't try a different tact and give it another go.

So you manage to prove the DJMag Poll is nothing more than a glorified popularity contest. Then what? Hope the following poll has a credible list instead, based on skill and actual talent? It hasn't had such a list for over half a decade now, and won't change just because a legion on trance fans were ticked off at seeing pop house acts taking over the top.

Yeah, it's fun to troll popularity contests, but the DJ Mag Poll is big business, and isn't going to be deterred by disgruntled former subscribers (they sure as hell weren't when people were complaining about Tiesto's 3-year reign). If you're looking to 'retake DJing credibility' (or whatever), it'll be a grass-roots thing, a proper underground movement that doesn't draw attention to itself.

RA's annual poll sort of has the right idea, in that you don't see nearly the same amount of promotion going into that one, and as a result tends to have more respectable results (though they're beginning to tread ever-so close to the edge with that).
Time4change
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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
If you genuinely think voting Paris Hilton to #1 on the DJ Mag poll will "bring about an underground renaissance", you are mindblowingly stupid.


It will sow the seeds for it to happen. You appear to be mind-blowingly myopic.
zyklon-jay
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Originally posted by Time4change
I see the sarcasm, but it's you that's missing something. Changing the rules changes how popularity, and (particularly) marketing influence the poll.


I think you're missing something as well. Intelligence. Go sit in the corner and think about it really hard. I know the Tuesday comedown blues are hard, but by the power of rave invested in me i am confident to pronounce you winner of the TA Number 1 Super Duper Pole (yes spelled that way)Of The Week.
Time4change
quote:
Originally posted by Sykonee
So you manage to prove the DJMag Poll is nothing more than a glorified popularity contest. Then what? Hope the following poll has a credible list instead, based on skill and actual talent? It hasn't had such a list for over half a decade now, and won't change just because a legion on trance fans were ticked off at seeing pop house acts taking over the top.

Yeah, it's fun to troll popularity contests, but the DJ Mag Poll is big business, and isn't going to be deterred by disgruntled former subscribers (they sure as hell weren't when people were complaining about Tiesto's 3-year reign). If you're looking to 'retake DJing credibility' (or whatever), it'll be a grass-roots thing, a proper underground movement that doesn't draw attention to itself.

RA's annual poll sort of has the right idea, in that you don't see nearly the same amount of promotion going into that one, and as a result tends to have more respectable results (though they're beginning to tread ever-so close to the edge with that).


Well while you're entitled to your opinion, I have to disagree. And I should add that a significant number of people would also disagree with you - 500 unique page views in about 6 hours, and starting to spread on twitter.

If credibility is shaken significantly through this, they'll need to do something, and if they happen to change it for the better, happy days. Has to be better than sitting in front of your screen pontificating.
zyklon-jay
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Originally posted by Time4change
It will sow the seeds for it to happen. You appear to be mind-blowingly myopic.


ok.

i'll take a stab at this one.

He's either 12, or deaf.

edit: after that last post i'm convinced its autism.
SYSTEM-J
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Originally posted by Time4change
It will sow the seeds for it to happen. You appear to be mind-blowingly myopic.


I find this somewhat ironic, given you're clearly too immersed in the trance world to realise just how little importance the DJ Mag poll has on so many other scenes.

Time4change
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Originally posted by zyklon-jay
I think you're missing something as well. Intelligence. Go sit in the corner and think about it really hard. I know the Tuesday comedown blues are hard, but by the power of rave invested in me i am confident to pronounce you winner of the TA Number 1 Super Duper Pole (yes spelled that way)Of The Week.


I currently have one of the worlds top experts in machine learning liaising with his associate professors - chemist and biologist - to bring to market two products. One of which is for a market that doesn't even exist yet. He's also in talks with some of his former computer science students, in order for them to develop the algorithms required to develop 6 or 7 other sites I'm launching. With a couple of them being in markets that don't exist yet.

I don't think I need any of you to deem me intelligent ;)
evo8
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Originally posted by Time4change
Has there ever been a less credible winner than Guetta?


Tell us why Armin was a more credible winner than Guetta.
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